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Vaccine Companies Investigated for Manslaughter

vaccine, vaccination, shotA formal investigation has been launched by French authorities against two managers from drug companies GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi Pasteur. A second investigation for manslaughter has also been opened against Sanofi Pasteur MSD.

The investigations are in response to allegations that the companies failed to fully disclose side effects from an anti-hepatitis B drug used between 1994 and 1998.

During this time, close to two-thirds of the French population, and almost all newborn babies, received a hepatitis B vaccine. The vaccination campaign was halted after concerns rose over the shot’s side effects.

Thirty plaintiffs, including the families of five people who died after the vaccination, have launched a civil action in the case against the drug companies.

Dr. MercolaDr. Mercola's Comments:
In the United States, the hepatitis B vaccine is recommended for all newborns before they are discharged from the hospital. These recommendations are inexcusable.

It finally seems that the drug companies will be held responsible for the consequences of giving this dangerous vaccine to infants.

Why it Makes No Sense to Give the Hepatitis B Vaccine to Newborns

Folks, let’s make on thing perfectly clear here, hepatitis B is VERY difficult to catch. You nearly always need to have blood or sexual contact of some sort with an infected carrier. That is why the main risk factors for hepatitis B are IV drug abusers and those who engage in sex with multiple partners.

This, of course, makes it nearly impossible for a newborn to contract hepatitis B, unless his mother already has it.

Further, vaccine-derived immunity is thought to be short-lived, and between 30 percent to 50 percent of vaccinated individuals may lose their antibodies within seven years.

Meanwhile, up to 60 percent of people who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies within 12 years. So that means that by the time these newborns get to the age when they could potentially engage in the risky behaviors that would put them at risk of hepatitis B, their childhood vaccine will provide little to no protection.

The central nervous system of a newborn infant is also particularly susceptible to toxic influences. This is one of the reasons why the hepatitis B vaccine is such a problem. If it were given later in life, as is done in many other countries, it would not be as problematic.

Even so, this vaccine is still associated with numerous side effects, such as an increased risk of multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid diseases.

Do Your Homework Before Vaccinating: The Drug Companies Won’t do it For You

Aside from highlighting the extreme lack of common sense that goes along with vaccinating a newborn against a disease they have a rare chance of getting until they’re much older, this article points out, once again, that the drug companies are not on your side.

Their primary motivation is in making profits, and if that means covering up side effects to make you believe a vaccination is safe, they will likely do it.

Remember, you do have the right to refuse vaccinations, and there are two basic axioms you should never forget.

    1. Nobody, anywhere or any time and under any circumstances has the right or power in this country to immunize you or your children against your will and conviction. If they attempt to do so, you can legally charge them with "assault with a deadly weapon" and have the full resources of the law behind you.

    2.  At all times in attempting to avoid unwanted immunization, you have the Law of the Land behind you. Those who would try to vaccinate you against your will are on very shaky ground. Into every compulsory immunization law in America are written legal exceptions and waivers, which are there specifically to protect you from the attempted tyranny of officialdom. It is not only your right, but your obligation to use them, if this is what your conscience tells you.

While all 50 states have immunization requirements, 28 allow parents to opt out for medical or religious reasons. Another 20 states allow parents to opt out for personal or philosophical reasons as well.

My previous article, How to Avoid Unwanted Immunizations of All Kinds, lays out your opt-out steps in greater detail. There is also an entire chapter in my book Take Control of Your Health devoted to this very topic, including what you should know before vaccinating, and what to do if you decide not to.

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mick-marie
[ Joined on 11/07 ] [ Posted on February 23, 2008 ]
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I don't understand why they only get a slap on the wrist! These are crimes against humanity like some of the nazi's were arrested for. Is there that much bribery going on in the White House? I GUESS SO!! Dr. Mercola says no one can be forced to have their kids vaccinated so why did that fiasco in Maryland take place where people sadly took their children to the courthouse to get vaccinated for fear of going to jail if they didn't? Those children weren't allowed to go to school if they hadn't received their "deadly mercury laden shots." I'd like to know once and for all...do we or do we NOT have the freedom to choose NOT to vaccinate?! If we do then why doesn't someone tell all the mayors and governors to back off? Why are they getting away with these terrorist tactics? Whoever would have thought 50 years ago that American citizens would be bullied by such ignorant, greedy, pharma-whipped, murdering cowards!!! And by the way, the word "vaccination" is not the same as the word  "immunization." Vaccinations can actually GIVE you a disease and that disease can come back. But if you are allowed to just get the disease naturally, you are then immune against it for life. I hate it when people get those two words mixed up and think they're the same. Vaccines don't deserve to be called immunizations! They're based on nothing more than JUNK SCIENCE!! And they suppress the immune system! Read about the history of vaccines and you'll see how wrong they are. Such ignorance!!!

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BeyondOrganic
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  Mercola

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!

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curious7
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  Mercola

MONEY!

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Audrey
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  Mercola

The media uses dumb people like those you are refering to in Maryland to scare the general public into doing what they want.  It's called brainwashing.  Most people are going to think, "Yep, I've gotta do it.  They even said I have to."  And then these people don't check the law or their options.  Our media is owned by those who are paid off from the pharmacutical companies.

This is no different than Federal Income Tax.  The income tax laws do not apply to most American citizens, but because the IRS harrasses and illegally jails those who resist, the rest of society is scared to believe that they must pay or something horrible will happen to them (numerous cases are happening all over the U.S. where people are winning against the IRS - but you won't hear this on your nightly news!).  If anyone really studies the Internal Revenue Code and also asks an IRS agent what specific statute and implementing regulation makes them liable, you won't find or get an answer because there is none!  IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA AND TAKE BACK YOUR RIGHTS!

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Barbiec1953
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  Mercola

Read the book Liberal Facism by Jonah Goldberg

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adailey
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  Mercola

There is currently a move by www.parentalrights.org to organize and pass a contstitutional amendment that would protect the parents' rights to determine what is best for their own children. If we have the constitutionally guaranteed right to determine what is best for our own children (including the right to homeschool or refuse vaccines), compulsory vaccination becomes a non-issue. We homeschool and have not had to vaccinate our children or exempt them from vaccinations for school, but we do get grilled if we happen to need stitches or a broken bone set at the ER for one of our six children. Another thing we do that helps us avoid all newborn vaccinations is homebirthing of our children. (Although this is not the main reason we homebirth, it is a nice perk!) Parents need to take responsibility for the health decisions they make for their children, and that includes educating themselves about all procedures or "shots" that the doctor may want to do. Our family avoids the doctor's office except if we are REALLY sick (as in the home-remedies did not work.) None of our children has needed antibiotics, even for UTI or ear infections for over 2 years. We research and use natural remedies that actaully work and concnetrate on good health. Parents MUST stand up for their children's health. No one else will do it.

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dariusz
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  Mercola

people lets face it americans are the most naive nation in the world and most trusting their government, that is why it does what it wants ; in my country there would be riots in the streets like the one in kosowo is right now;

america has no gut to fight u all mercola people -no offense- will end up in already built nazi camps; they have space for 15 mln people unless u get to the streets and fight; there is no other way around

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dariusz
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  Mercola

www.infowars.net/.../210208Camps.htm

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Vince C
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  Mercola

Audrey,

The media doesn't USE dumb people, it creates dumb people...

It's called: The Dumbing Down of America!

As for the IRS, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals have activated estoppels against the Department of the Treasury, the Internal Revenue Service, and the Department of Justice concerning illegal taxation and unlawful prosecution. All this while stating that the 14th and 16th Constitutional amendments are massive frauds!

I state the above concerning the 10th circuit court because I can't disprove those facts; yet, I am unable to verify those facts either. I am NO ATTORNEY at law, so it would be so greatly appreciated if one person, at least, could verify via court documents. Adding that such court documentation should be readily available to ME through legal channels.

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Vince C
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dariusz,

They are disclosed now!

They are known as the FEMA camps in Alsaka!

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Masonsmama
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  Mercola

Audrey, I wanted to say that it's not the media using dumb people... there is a legitimate fear in losing a child and it's exploited by the media. I have read so many articles on children being taken from loving parents because they refused to drug their children. It is a legitimate fear. It is exploited and sounds as though it were exploited in Maryland. It is easy to assume people are dumb when in fact they are reacting out of fear. Fear the child may get sick, the fear of not knowing what information to trust, as there are always several "well researched" sides to a story written and endorsed by "doctors". I believe it should be a choice, but as a mother with a child on medicaid, it certainly does not seem I have a choice in the vaccination arena, if I want to keep my child on insurance. I am currently researching all I can about the "opt-out" reasons, but often to find those reasons you need to pay money. So which profit-making health "expert" do I believe? When it comes to the safety and well-being of my child I'm the only one who should decide... but can I do so without the risk of losing my child to the courts. It has happened, often. So rather than assume these parents are dumb, assume they are operating out of a primal fear of losing a child.

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capricorn
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  Mercola

Dear mick-marie,

I agree very much with your comment. Vaccinations are indeed a global medical experiment inflicted on the human race, without a control and without informed consent. This is in direct contravention of the Nuremberg laws, which were supposedly set up to prevent people like Nazi concentration camp doctor Mengele to repeat their horrendous deeds. Yet, it seems the spirit of medical fascism is still alive and very active!

The ironical part is that there is NO scientific evidence to show that vaccines have ever prevented any diseases. On the contrary, infectious diseases mortality graphs clearly show that around 80 percent of the remarkable decline in the number of deaths from infectious diseases occurred BEFORE vaccinations were introduced, and was COMPLETELY unaffected by vaccinations.

As Dr A Kalokerinos MD from Australia said in a 1995 interview (google):

"When I looked into the vaccination issue further, I found that this whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors believe that vaccines are useful, but when one looks at the proper statistics one finds that this is not so."

In other words, the psychopaths who promote vaccines are doing their best to deceive us into believing that vaccines are about disease PREVENTION, when they are actually given for disease PROMOTION purposes!!

Mercola
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Razarr69
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  Mercola

We DO have the right, so did the people in Maryland.  The problem is this...IGNORANCE.  America is full of it.  But Ignorance can be fixed (stupid, on the other hand, is permanent).  

nvic.org/.../state-exemptions.htm

shows a state by state breakdown of exemptions allowed for vaccination.  MA allows both medical and Religious exemptions for refusing vaccines.  

In Georgia, where I live, all I had to do was write up a statement stating that I had a religious objection, get it notarized and that was that.  No complaints.  Of course, it takes a little bit of effort and a little bit of knowledge to know to do that.  But it was not hard.  The negligible amount of cost involved in getting the paper notarized is well worth the possible harm vaccines can/will inflict.  

I feel that the vaccine rights people of that area failed miserably in what they should consider their duty.  WHY didn't they form a group of protesters who had the knowledge these people so obviously needed.  Surely one of their numbers included a Notary Public as well.  They should have formed a group near that court house with the means to complete the religious exemption affidavits for each and every person wishing to attain one.  

But wait!  Further research does show an instance when you will NOT have the right to refuse vaccines.  That's right.  You can thank Bush and he ilk for using the 9/11 event to further someone's plans

nvic.org/.../homeland%20security.htm

That's right.  "This federal law also does not preclude the use of the U.S. military to enforce the administration of vaccines or other “substances” ordered by the Secretary of DHHS to be administered to individuals just as the MSEHPA legislation provided for use of the state militia to arrest, quarantine and forcibly vaccinate individuals.

"

So, Yes and No.  Generally, you do have the right to refuse.  But...Let the gov't cook up another emergency and your right to refuse (and many others) dissappears

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Marnie1
[ Joined on 01/07 ]  [ Posted on February 25, 2008]
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That's because they adopted a policy of not allowing under or un vaccinated kids to go to school.  Then they threatened to put the parents in jail for truancy--not for vaccinations.  They manipulated the system to poison the kids--interesting tactic, huh?  So far, it doesn't seem that the rest of the states have tried to adopt this tactic, but we'll see.

  
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foxtroter
[ Joined on 09/06 ] [ Posted on February 4, 2008 ]
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Talk about opening Pandora's Box---

Merclola states: "Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 225,000 Deaths Every Year"

" ALL THESE ARE DEATHS PER YEAR:
  • 12,000 -- unnecessary surgery
  • 7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals
  • 20,000 -- other errors in hospitals
  • 80,000 -- infections in hospitals
  • 106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs

These total to 225,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes !!

http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm
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BeyondOrganic
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  Mercola

Ever read "Death By Doctoring"? Pretty darn scary!  We are all best to stay far, far,far away from the medical community!    

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purldiver
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  Mercola

Rope,Tree,FDA Official, some assembly required.

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curious7
[ Joined on 03/07 ]  [ Posted on February 23, 2008]
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  Mercola

And people think you are lying when you are crazy when say do you utmost to stay out of hospitals, or if you tell them Doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in America.

In the 80s when I was living in California there was a Doctors strike, and guess who was begging the Doctors to go back to work?  The Undertakers.

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Raquel Lazar-Paley
[ Joined on 02/08 ]  [ Posted on February 23, 2008]
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  Mercola

Resources on the internet are helping parents get educated about vaccinations. The Conscious Woman dot org new online community is even offering a series of interactive online workshops via WebEx with Dr. Tedd Koren on vaccinations to help get the word out to the general community.    

  
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mama bear
[ Joined on 06/06 ] [ Posted on February 5, 2008 ]
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most infants exposure and risk to hep b is what???? Just another money making venture for big pharma.  Where else do you have 70,000 ready made (newborns) customers a day ?
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New to Natural
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  Mercola
Exactly!  How many infants are involved in IV street-drug use or have promiscuous sexual encounters? 

I sure hope this lawsuit cracks the drug companies wide open for all the world to see. 
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Burt G
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  Mercola

Hey, I love this website and all of the informed opinions and comments. (This is my first post in the 10 months of enjoying this forum.)

Now, I have to ask the BIG question.

Why does it seem that everyone is ignoring the fact that immunizing newborns (and infants up to 6 months of age) is JUNK SCIENCE, and total quackery.  Humans do not have an immune system that is capable of building up immunities for the first 6 months of life.

Injecting any type of vaccine that could be beneficial for an adult (however unlikely that may be) will only WEAKEN or HARM the body of an infant that cannot develop immunities of its own.  That is one reason that breastfeeding is so critical in the first 6 months of life -to pass on immune factors from the mother.

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Burt G
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What’s my authority for the preceding statement?

I attended a fascinating 2-day seminar presented by a wise medical doctor, age 73, in August 2005 where he asked this question of a group of 60 nurses and doctors from all parts of the country.  "What is your excuse for allowing the vaccinating of newborns in your care, knowing that it scientifically impossible to help them?"  No one had a good answer as to why they were going along with the harmful scam.  It was a sobering moment that I will never forget, as I saw most of them look down in shame.

The even scarier part is that the ensuing conversation revealed that the hospitals and clinics that employed them, had told them to vaccinate the infants SECRETLY (like when their parents were out of the room, or turned their backs) whenever their parents refused or opted out.  The nurses were told they would be protected from lawsuits for following these illegal orders!!

Don't you feel a little sick right now?

  
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Cheryl Rounds
[ Joined on 10/06 ] [ Posted on February 6, 2008 ]
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Somebody should bring Merck to trial for the deaths caused by Gardisal.
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curious7
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  Mercola

And Merck Continues the brainwashing, "One Less."  One less Mother, Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, etc.  Why?  They were murdered by Gardisal.

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Razarr69
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Sorry.  If the FDA approved a vaccine you are unable to sue in the U.S. according to how this article reads.  

nvic.org/.../homeland%20security.htm

"Sections 1714-1717 of the bill shielded the pharmaceutical industry from lawsuits for injuries caused by FDA-approved vaccines, such as mercury containing pediatric vaccines associated with the development of autism in many children."

You know what?  I have a new vaccine.  It prevents everything.  It's called cyanide.  One quick shot and you are guaranteed not to contract any viruses, bacteria, diseases, or anything else for the rest of your life.  That's right!  LIFETIME IMMUNITY!!!  Just take a shot of cyanide... not much is needed.  Prevents all future illness.  Even helps fight global warming.  So come on down!  Get your kids their cyanide shot along with yours.  

  
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eqhealth07
[ Joined on 03/07 ] [ Posted on February 5, 2008 ]
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Manslaughter?  Let's up it to full blown homicide!
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4Hand Healthy
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  Mercola
There goes that "up as a verb" thing again.Anyway,I totally agree.Anytime harm is caused that could have been prevented,and the "responsible" parties were aware of the danger(and they very likely were) that is the same as premeditation. 
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eqhealth07
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busted for a verb, uh, noun, uh whatever    ;-D

Well, I bet the English language will continue to undergo massive changes thanks to the internet.  There are new words, and new meanings happening all the time.  I used to be a purist, but I discovered that I enjoy slang waaaaay too much.
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4Hand Healthy
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I enjoy it also EQ. I was referring to a post from Islander on Jan.31. Being from the south, slang is required,or you're looked at as weird   (ha ha) Ain't that a hoot?      
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oceanboy1993
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  Mercola

Homicide? Massacre

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dariusz
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  Mercola

This is how the NWO is depopulating us.

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brandigity
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Full working link to The Conscious Woman online course that RLazar-Paleley referenced below.

www.consciouswoman.org/.../childhood-vaccination-questions-all-parents-should-ask

  
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Audrey
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Sadly a wonderful young couple I know was tricked into having their child vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine.  The husband made his wishes clear when they went to the hospital to deliver their child and was pretty adamant about it.  But the hospital staff knew they could badger the wife as her convictions weren't as strong, but she wanted to respect her husband's wishes.  Well, there was a time when he wasn't around (went home or something) and the nurses kept bugging her and persisting that the baby needed the vaccine and she needed to reconsider.  The new mom was mentally and emotionally exhausted and weak and so to get them off her back, she relented and signed the form and their baby got the shot.  The husband was livid with the hospital when he found out.  They considered and talked about suing the hospital, but they didn't follow through and so the hospital ended up getting away with it.

There is no way I would have let them get away with it!  If I was the husband, I would have sued them for #1, disregarding my wishes; #2, putting my baby's life at risk by doing something that's been proven to be fatal; and #3, knowing my wife's state of mind they used that to their advantage to harrass her and cause her emotional and mental distress to the point she gave in and disregarded the decision she had made with her husband.  Oh, I would have sued alright.

This is why if I ever have kids, I'm delivering them at home with a midwife who understands these issues and my wishes.  My children will be homeschooled (most likely) too.

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dherto
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.....I live in WV. There are no religious or philosophical exemptions here (one of only two states...the other is Mississippi---yeah, I know, the two "healthiest" states in the country. lol).

I attempted a homebirth for my first with a lay midwife, but kept seeing a CNM also. An unexpected emergency took us to the hospital, but my CNM was great and supportive about no vaccines or eye drops. Others weren't (physicians) and we took the baby out "against medical advice." Had my other two in the same small hospital with the same CNM. The MDs who discharged the babies advised me to have the vaccines, etc., but we stood our ground with fewer issues.

We homeschool. There is just no getting them in without vaccinations, even to the private, religious schools. Medical exemptions are challenged and must be "based on a previous reaction to vaccines." Since none of mine have ever had any, I can't get one that wouldn't be challenged.

My children are 14, 12 and 8 now, and they love homeschooling. They are also very, very healthy, which I attribute to a lifetime of chiropractic care. These vaccine issues will also impact them if they want to go to college here, as the same rules apply there. With any kind of nationalized healthcare, people like me/my children will be put under terrible scrutiny and lose what freedoms we have left.

I think it's horrendous that religious freedoms apply in 48 states on this issue, but two states squelch those. Nationalized healthcare will bring more challenges to these (and other) freedoms......watch out!

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gus
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This is exactly why, almost 28 years ago, I had my first of 5 kids at home.  There are always consequence for our actions, what is the consequence for the nurse, who got on her high horse, used a material that from the beginning damaged the earth?  The pharmacuetical industry is very polluting.  What happens to old public health nurses that pushed the needle, and brainwashed people with the offical view?  I stongly suspect that they took their own medicine and ended up with a degenerative disease, and still no wiser.  There is a Bach Flower Remedy for slow learners, maybe if we could put it in the water..........

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Iceburger
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When I was a young woman (19) I had my first son by C-section ~ after 36 hours labour ~ I could not have him on my own.  After his birth I was tired and worn out, however being a young mother many of the older nurses really tried to have their way with me.  I wanted to only breast feed ~ they tried to supplement.  I would call them on each and everything they tried to undermine me on... to the point where one of the nurses checked on who I was and stated "Oh, I've heard about you!"

That experience taught me a few things...

One, that you have to stand up for what you believe in ~ even if it isn't popular at the time, no matter how tired you are.

Two, I was so very thankful for the technology that ~ in the end ~ I believe saved my life.  

Three, the importance of educating myself.

And finally I believe that the best "marriage" is one that understands and accepts the weaknesses in each other, working to minimize those weaknesses, and then taking advantage of each others strengths.  In the end, I believe the "marriage" between science/technology and natural medicine is inevitable ~ I just hope it's a good marriage. With great people, such as yourselves, and Dr. Mercola continuing to educate us all ~ getting the information out there and informing people what their rights are it could be amazing!

Mercola
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capricorn
[ Joined on 03/07 ]  [ Posted on February 24, 2008]
       
   
  Mercola

How disgusting!

If every parent felt as strongly as you do, this whole evil vaccination scam would collapse around their ears!

  
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ncherblady
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I agree that more details would be helpful.  However, at least someone is doing something about holding these greedy b@#$%^&@# responsible for their actions.  It may only be a drop in the bucket financially, but let's be thankful for every little bit.
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nofluvaccine
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say a prayer for all of those that this came too late to help.   MKS  will never be well due to the hep B vaccine.   Once a nursing student,  now permanently disabled.   Now hopefully they will look at other vaccines.  

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curious7
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  Mercola

No "Big Pharma" will just change the name of the vaccine, or simply deny any connection.

  
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Russ Bianchi
[ Joined on 09/06 ] [ Posted on February 4, 2008 ]
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Way past time this occur...
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shaneperrone
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  Mercola
Amen, may they suffer for their actions!
  
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johnfryer
[ Joined on 10/07 ] [ Posted on February 23, 2008 ]
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Remember this vaccine is HEP B vaccine and from being given to teenagers and older people it has attracted charges of MANSLAUGHTER.

In the USA the same vaccine is STILL being given to 1 day old babies.

Why does it take so long for the USA to appreciate why they have the worst record of G7 countries for keeping babies alive?

I know of TWO babies given this HEP B vaccine one only last year and resultant head swelling caused one death and one baby who will never lead a normal life.

HOW MANY WILL IT TAKE before SOMEONE decides it ain't MANSLAUGHTER but MURDER?

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healthfoodnut
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I just read this morning that  in New York State  "Any child born after Jan 1, 2008 will be required to be vaccinated against pneumonia before they can begin  attending daycare or school."

So lets add this chemical concoction to all of the other "mandatory" shots that are "required" for our children.  When will all of this madness stop?  When will the public realize that their children are being poisoned by the FDA (Federal Drugcompany Alliance.)

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Motherpeace
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As a mother of two non immunized, attachment parented children I implore you to listen to this information.  I live in Canada and as soon as I mention that my children are non immunized everyone assumes they can not go to school. That is not the case and requires only a simple sworn statement that it is my personal philosphy not to immunize and have the recorded with the dept of public health. THATS all. You must agree that if your child is sick you keep them home from school. Is that not rediculous that it must be mandated to do that!!!!!  I have had doctors refuse to take my children as patients because of this issue which shows me they are not for us anyway. Information is power and thank you Dr Mercola for having the courage and comittment to share this knowledge.

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curious7
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While it is a fact that more people die from so called legal drugs, than illegal drugs, one has to wonder who is steering the boat?  Our protect the people from themselves, FDA appears to be missing in action, when it comes to doing the job it was set up to do.  Protect us from bad food F-, and protect us from the snake oil salesmen, F-.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.  This is where the general public now stands.  All the brainwashing in the media these days really keeps many people from being able to make a rational choice.  Where is the FTC?  

The bottom line here is that we the people in the United States, are nothing more than "Shark Fodder."

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mrconservative
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Wow, Imagine a Political Party Mandating "Universal Health Care"  where if you DON'T fall in line, you are refused ALL care.. Now which Party is running on this platform this election???   Are we a free Country or Not?  

Also, if school children are Vaccinated and mine are not, why are the other children at risk...?  why are mine at risk?      Isn't Hepatitis B made from Reesis? Monkey Tissue ?   Aids was passed from the Monkeys to the population according to a Time Magazine article.  

  
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ThomasT
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Dr Merc says do your homework before vaccine, but shouldn`t it read, the only safe vaccine is no vaccine..

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New to Natural
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  Mercola

I think it's pretty much assumed that if you DO research vaccinations, the details will scare the heck out of you!  They sure did for me.....

  
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Paul Doyon
[ Joined on 11/06 ] [ Posted on February 23, 2008 ]
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In principle, I am against the death penalty - but I would make an exception for these ****ards. And that also goes for the number one sicko in the number one American psychiatric ward - i.e. the White House - for crimes against humanity.

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curious7
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  Mercola

It has always been my conviction that the death penalty should be used only for serial killers, and mass murderers.  The drug companies fit the later.

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Conscious Evolution
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I have no idea why someone gave you negative votes Paul, I agree completly... Let's tar and feather these mass murdering devils!

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bmc
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  Mercola

I agree 100%

  
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healthsavvy
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terryd1960:

I do not credit vaccines (poison) for eliminating incurable diseases. I credit education, awareness, and hygienic improvement. If you fully knew what you are talking about, you would know that every vaccine delivers immunity, nor is each disease that is being vaccinated for an incurable disease. Hepatitis B vaccines are nothing more than a cash cow for big pharma! This is does absolutely nothing but compromise the health of infants. Before you go giving credit to vaccines for improved health and longer lifespans, do your research and also look at how differently life was in the days of your grandparents. ALL vaccines are EVIL, and YES, the drug companies are just out for the almighty dollar at our expense.

I also agree, this is just a part of depopulation by the NWO.

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terryd1960
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healthsavvy, it never ceases to amaze me that some people (hint hint) call others ignorant when they do not agree.  I am very well educated, thank you, and I fully support parents' right to not vaccinate if they believe it is dangerous. I just don't happen to believe, after a tremendous amount of research, that vaccines are evil.  And as far as better hygiene is concerned, I agree with you on that, but it doesn't account for all improvements in health and longevity, not by a long shot. I have had multiple health problems in my life, some of which have been helped by natural means and others that have required traditional medical care and medications. My quality of life is excellent now, something I couldn't say just a decade ago, thanks in great part to traditional medicine; a couple of generations ago I would have died young, it's as simple as that. (And just in case you're wondering, vaccinations did me no harm, my health problems are all genetic.)

  
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Magnolia
[ Joined on 06/06 ] [ Posted on February 23, 2008 ]
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Vive La France! They have my wholehearted support! The witchunt has begun! This is just the beginning...sooner or later you have to pay the piper for your misdeeds. Its a Universal law!

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Dr Rik
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assume that you think vaccination is a good idea

Vaccination works by stimulating the body's immune system. A child's does not fully and properly respond until about two years of age. Therefore, the vaccine doesn't stimulate the immune system very much.

Relatively normal childhood used to mean that child didn't interact much outside the family until later (about 5 years of age). This was protective against transmission of all the "cruds" now so common in "daycare".

So there would be no good reason to vaccinate anybody before 2-5 yrs. of age, and every reason to raise your children at home until they are ready for school. (This is apart from the actual risks of the vaccination itself)

Another note. Polio (like Hepatitis A and cholera) is transmitted by oral-fecal, eating someone else's non processed bowel movement. Government Public Health agencies identified that water problem in the rapidly urbanizing America of the early 1900's. Improving infrastructure (not running poop water through the faucet) and personal hygiene was adequate to reduce several oral-fecal diseases dramatically (without vaccination). The AMA worked very hard to claim credit for the MD vaccination program instead of the PhD Public Health program, and succeeded.

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chadden1149
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Resistance is futile

You will be vaccinated.

That's what all this feels like, battling the Borg named Big Pharma.

Maybe we are doing this all wrong? Instead of protesting and looking for legal loopholes, we should do what Pharma does, pay the doctors off to NOT vaccinate. Go to the office and take a few extra dollars with us, cash is untraceable. All he has to do at that point is fill in the blanks on the shot record.

After all the only real reason the doctors give the shots is because they are paid off per shot they give.

My own doctor nearly went ballistic when I told him I wouldn't take last years flu shot! He didn't even ask me to take it, just sent the nurse in to give it to me. The man literally turned a purple with rage when I refused! He couldn't even give me a reason to take the shot. He didn't have one.

And about the IRS, I am a former agent and I know for a fact that it doesn't matter if you take them to court and win. There is no court that has any power over the IRS. They are immune to any judgement.They don't have to obey any court in this country. And they don't mind you spending all your money on lawyers and lawsuits, because in the end, you can't win.

Yes, it's true that they do target certain famous and very visible people to harass. They purposely make it loud and public to scare everybody into obeying. They go after them with a vengence! The whole idea is to make the population terrified of the IRS and all its power.

Makes perfect sense to me, if the income tax law itself is illegal, then the agency over those taxes is illegal too, and beyond the reach of any law.

The only way to beat them is for everybody, EVERYBODY to not pay taxes. Imagine what would happen if nobody filed a W4. Or if every business refused to send in the employees information. The IRS doesn't take out your money, your job does that for them.

What has been forgotten is that this nation was founded by rebels, common people fighting against tyranny.

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amymingasson
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Dear everyone,

Breastfeeding needs to be promoted more and more--especially on a website like this. The less babies are breastfeed, the more supplements they will be needing in the years to come. Females of the species: use your breasts as they were meant to be used and get rid of these stupid pthalate-leaching plastic bottles of Nestlé formula!

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meagan.mize
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All I have to say is Hallelujah!!!  I am so thankful I was asked while I was pregnant with my first child “Are you going to vaccinate?”  I didn’t know I had a choice.  I choice not to, and am so pleased with that decision everyday.  I talk about it a lot.  I want other parents to know they have a choice as many don’t.  Education is empowering!  I hope this will start a ripple effect throughout the rest of the world.  

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lisamichelleostella
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The troops at Walter Reed Hospital are being given anti-hepatitis B vaccines and their reactions are not good.

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Razarr69
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Gee, imagine that?  Something stupid going on at Walter Reed that has negative effects on it's population.

  
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kingcop
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Dr Mercola seems to indicate that vaccines are effective in this article. I don't believe so. In my 15 years of studying the vaccine question I have found no evidence that vaccines work. Of course, if you just look at the manufacturers data (propaganda), you will think they are effective. One thing is for sure: whenever their is an out break of an illness then the vaccinated ones are most likely to get it.

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Cedric4203
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I have read articles from my chiropractor's office about the dangers of vaccinations and that they often have mecury and other toxic substances in them.  I have learned that my chiropractor does not vaccinate his own children and they are among the happiest and healthiest youngsters I have ever seen!  The body has it's own immune system and we should let it use this rather than relying on outside sources which are potentially fatal.  It is a money making scheme-just like prescription drugs!  Incidentally, since I have started regularly seeing my chiropratctor and eating healtheir-I don't take anti-depressessants and feel better than when I did take them!!

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Susan M
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I am so upset by this article.  I had the Hepatitis B series when I worked in an ER and I developed joint pain during the series of 3 shots and when I mentioned it I was told they had never heard of such a thing, I still have joint pain since that time, and it was all for naught as my titre they took said the vaccine had not worked. They offered it to me again but I said "no way" once was enough. I also was not allowed to work in a hospital without getting a measles vaccine as I had not had the measles as a child.  I had to have that done also. My employer tried to make me get a flu shot but I was able to slip past it. I had one flu shot in my life and that year I got sicker than I had ever gotten before.  So I won't let them do that again. But some hospitals won't let you work unless you get one. Talk about Big Brother.

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jasp555
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I had excellent health until having a hep-b vaccine.   I had very short duration stroke-like symptoms and extreme thirst that I--several years later--realized was the onset of adult/ autoimmune/ type 1 diabetes.     Of course, there's not a way to properly report or attribute this onset.  As a social worker, I ran into the way vaccine damage went unreported when talking to parents of previously normal kids who became severely mentally disabled after vaccines.    Just as these people told me their doctors had told them-- my doctor assured me it was just a coincidence.   No.  I felt it clearly--that my body changed from healthy to unhealthy directly after the hep b shot.     My diabetic onset was insidious and compounded by a local doc who has been multiply reported to the state board  (my medical records where I reported severe thirst also went missing).    Complications included organ damage, vision loss, e.d., and autonomic neuropathy.     If you'd like to expose yourself or your children to expensive and debilitating autoimmune diseases, I'd say try the hep b vaccine.    It fried me thoroughly.     Wonder if its makers are the ones selling me my diabetes supplies?    Yes, it is profitable to create diabetes and I believe it is well known that a percentage of the population will have debilitating  autoimmune responses to vaccines.    Canadian research has shown a link between hep b shots and diabetic onset.     Yet it's profitable not to show or even look for such a link, so more of us need to speak out in a better organized fashion.      I wish I had more energy to pursue this, yet the aftermath of years of untreated diabetes have left me without proper resources or time.    --Matt Jasper    Farmington, NH  

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HI JASP555

MY MOM WAS RULED OUT AS A DIABETIC ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO .AND WAS ALLERGIC TO ALL MEDS. THE DOCTOR GAVE HER. SHE FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING THAT HELPS HER. HER ACCOUNT WENT FROM 500 TO 325 TO 177 BUT IT TOOK 2 YEARS TO STABLIZE IT. TILL SHE GOT ALL THE JUNK OUT OF HER SYSTEM. CHECK THIS WEB SITE OUT.www.hamartin.com

GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS.

  
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adklaker
[ Joined on 07/06 ] [ Posted on February 24, 2008 ]
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Why do Americans have to be subjected to forced immos?  Isn't it time for Americans to speak up for the right to choose? I was forced by my job with NY state to have Hep B Series and a flu shot in 1998 and  I have had neuro problems since then resulting in young onset Parkinson's 5 years ago. I know it was from the shots but can't prove.  Thanks Dr. M for your articles.  Ron Paul - pray you can miraculously get Pres. nomination, we desperately need a man like you!

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Mom-of-Three
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Forcing vaccinations on American citizens is only the beginning of having to fight for our right to say no to what the government mandates is best for us. The majority of our society are like sheep being led to slaughter - never questioning or thinking for themselves but relying on a greater power, the US government, to make decisions for them. Just think how easy it is going to be for Obama or Hillary to force government mandated health insurance onto the American population. As a growing number of our civil liberties are threatened I question what will be the breaking point for this mind numbed generation.

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MatthewR
[ Joined on 02/08 ]  [ Posted on February 25, 2008]
       
   
  Mercola

I'm from canada and we recently voted Tommy Douglas the greatest canadian of all time. He's the guy that 'forced' everyone to getting government mandated health insurance... Man not a day goes by that I dont wish that if I got rushed to the hospital i would be stuck for the bill or if i came down with cancer or hiv i would be unable to renew my plan.

  
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evw
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True Story: My doctor friend in NYC is getting a degree in public health. In her class the other day her prof. asked them to discuss why health care and pharmacueticals are so expensive in this country. One of the students brought up the topic of big pharma using "payola" with doctors and health care people to manipulate them into promoting their drugs. The guy was villified and everyone in the class asked him how can he say this? Basically the whole class ganged up on him and were very upset at this "accusation" and more upset when he showed the articles about it. People are brainwashed in this country and more especially so health care workers, administration et al. Yeah I am scared when the people who are supposedly taking a hippocratic oath don't take it seriously and people believe everything they are told...

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Esther M. Cook
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It is NOT always possible to protect your children from gov know-it-alls about vaccines. My child was kidnapped by child "protection" of another state. I probably had the legal right to say no to the vaccines she was given--but would I ever have gotten her back?

A friend had a contested divorce. With courts severely prejudiced against men as it is, he could not always fight for what is best for his son, either.

100 000 children are kidnapped by the State every year. Many die. Millions are impacted by divorce every year.

I want my Constitution BACK. So I am a county level delegate for Ron Paul, working my way up to National.

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  Mercola

Thank you for speaking out for Ron Paul!  GOod luck becoming national!  

  
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The Texan
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parentalrights.org and a constitutional amendment!

Oh, please, what do you think is covered under

       UNALIENABLE RIGHTS

as in "...all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among [AMONG] these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent [FROM THE CONSENT] of the governed."   ???

Quit consenting!

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The Therapist
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I find this article quite interesting, in that before I was deployed to Katrina I had just received the Hep A & B shots (first dose only of each).  I became ill while there and had to leave shortly after I arrived.  Soon after returning home I fell ill, and the next few months were a nightmare.  The doctors said I had succumb to reactive arthritis, but my symptoms were much too sever and long lasting to be so, but my tests for RA were negative.  After reading this article, I am now wondering if in fact I had a reaction to the Hep B vaccine, which is causing my severe joint pain, swelling, etc.  No one has been able to help me thus far, and I will NOT take any more conventional medications.  I am on B supplements and more, per my urine tests.  I would very much like to find a cure for what I am living with, as it is worsening daily.

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Razarr69
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And did you report this to Vaccine Adverse Reaction thing?  If no one reports, the drug companies win

  
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Austin, Texas
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I had a nurse tell me my baby would not leave the hospital without HepB, period.  I don't even think they asked my permission and I was too out of it to pay attention. At the doctor office they make you sign for it but I didn't at the hospital.   After all the scary stuff on vaccines on 20/20 and other investigative programs 13 years ago, I refused vaccines for both my children until they were at least 6 months and then I would wait longer than 2 months in-between.  And insisted on the dead polio vaccine even before my best friends baby was infected with it from the live polio vaccine.  Doctors were totally fine with it but nurses could not stand it.  I was yelled at and gawked at by some nurses because I was leaving my 2 month old vulnerable to disease.  It was crazy.  They think those odds of a bad side effect were great!  I'm sorry but 1 in 100,000 is awful.  Think of how many babies in one large city are contracting polio or worse every year.  My 12 year old is very healthy and has a strong immune system and no allergies. I think it just made some of them mad that they had to figure out each time what it was that they needed instead of just looking at their age.

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Conjeanneal
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SUE, SUE, SUE, AND SUE THEM SOME MORE....THEN SHUT THEM DOWN!!!!

Indict every last lying big pharma executive all the way up and down the chain of command, hospital or doctor or nurse who FORCED vaccinations on anyone or SECRETLY innoculated anyone with these poisons!!  

You betcha....try them for manslaughter!!!  Take away their fat salaries, big homes and fancy cars.  When they finish their jail time, if they have any energy left, let them go help all those children and adults who they have harmed with their poisons.  

Use any of their monies left over to pay out to all the MILLIONS of autistic children, children

with cancer and parents of all these children who were bankrupted, lied to, conned,

threatened with lawsuits and parents who had their children taken away from them and made a ward of the state, etc.

Can we see some justice in this lifetime?  I surely hope so!

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Right on

  
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trailblazer
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Burt G, This is the first time I have commented online like this but I would be very interested in hearing more about the seminar you attended and the conversation regarding vaccines.  I am making a documentary on the issue as well as corruption in the medical industry and it is of great interest.

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HealMeGood
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I feel quite alone in the world.  My husband and I are adopting a baby and for 6 months the baby will be in the custody of the state, under our supervision, which mandates vaccinations.  After the 6 months and we legally adopt the baby then we are free to choose to vaccinate or not.  Texas has quite an extensive vaccination list.  I can't find a doctor who will do a decelerated vaccination schedule.  All the doctors are afraid of lawsuit.  Naturopathic doctors in Texas can not give vaccinations.  <sigh>  The irony of the story is that against my philosophical convictions I have to be the one to have my baby vaccinated.  Not everyone has rights.  Who will speak out for adopted children and their rights?

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chirocheer
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I sympathize for you.  I have a heart to adopt one day but have often wondered what the laws are concerning vaccinating adopted children.  What a shame.  For that reason alone -- mandating vaccinations -- my husband and I would probably never adopt.  So sad...

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New to Natural
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I believe there are folks on this forum who have "detoxed" their children from vaccinations.  Maybe want to check that out?  They can make you inject your baby, but they can't "make it stick" if you don't want it to

  
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holler4health
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I had considered fostering children to give a needy child (ren) a loving home. However, when I went to the meeting I was informed that I would have to provide the medical care deemed appropriate by the state. As a former conventional medical provider who is now enlightened and reformed, I simply could not do it. Any child I know and love will not be subject to the ways of conventional medicine.

Let's focus on the positive though. Awareness is at an all time high. We can actually take back our health with common sense and informed choices.

Teresa Holler (www.holler4health.com)

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bagarino
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The degree to which Hep B is difficult or easy to catch depend on the context of where you live, the quality of the medical services and the current prevalence within the population. It might be inappropriate in the USA but in various European countries the virus has long been widespread and common.

While rare in UK and N. Europe it is still very common in countries bordering the Mediterranean, there were 200,000 cases a year in Italy in the 1980s, many in babies born to infected mothers who in their turn were infected in the womb.

Given that "more than 95% of people who become infected as adults or older children will stage a full recovery and develop protective immunity to the virus" it might seem that vaccination is misplaced. However, "only 5% of newborns that acquire the infection from their mother at birth will clear the infection.

Of those infected between the age of one to six, 70% will clear the infection" and become chronic (occult) Hep B virus excretors, many of preschool and elementary school age (when transmission to classmates is far easier than Dr. Mercola suggests), and as many as 20% of these will go on to develop cirrhosis of the liver, requiring, if they are lucky, a transplant or a horrible death, whilst a significant number will develop liver cancer and die.

I'm not qualified to speak about the USA (where I understand that the disease is mercifully rare) but the deaths of several people PERHAPS as a result of an adverse reaction to a vaccination for a very nasty and common disease need to be set against the fact that in this part of the world where the annual death rates number in the tens of THOUSANDS.

I usually agree with Dr. Mercola re. pointless vaccinations but on this occasion I beg to differ. Rates of Hepatitis B infection have fallen almost to zero amongst school children in Italy and rates of Hep B in neo-natals are falling as the first mothers, vaccinated as small children, begin to feed through into the obstetric wards.

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bagarino
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Dr. Mercola wrote: "Further, vaccine-derived immunity is thought to be short-lived, and between 30 percent to 50 percent of vaccinated individuals may lose their antibodies within seven years."

Seven years buys you the time to get to the point where your immune system is far, far more likely (90% or so probability) to clear the infection.

It also reduces the likelihood of transmission between virus excretor pre-schoolers and their vaccinated class-mates.

Sex and IV drug use is not necessary for Hep B transmission which is something like 100 times as easy to transmit as HIV. Serious 'intimacy' declines rapidly with age in growing children... (just look at the rates of head-lice transmission at different ages (pre-school / nursery = wildfire, elementary = rapid, middle school = low / inexistant).

The reason no-one (even in Europe where the disease was rife but is in decline in the south) proposes re-vaccination at 7 - 11 years (unless a young family member is a virus excretor and might use your toothbrush without you knowing :-O) is that person-to-person transmission declines to near zero by this age and by the age when youngsters become more sexually active (and I'm talking salivary exchange... nothing more!) the excretors are usually aware of their status, the implications of that status and what they need to do to protect themselves (abstention from alcohol to avoid cirrhosis) and their friends.

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curious7
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Please read the writings of one Dr. Linus Pauling, and his Vitamin C research on viruses.  Today we are told viruses cannot be killed, but Dr. Pauling begs to differ.  One of the main points Dr. Pauling brought up was the fact that Doctors today say too much Vitamin C can be toxic.  Dr. Pauling disagrees.  

Wonder why the amounts of Vitamin C marketed on the African continent are so low?  Could it be this is just what is needed to treat the AIDS virus without drugs?

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PKP
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Bagarino,

What about the ethyl mercury?  An 8 pound newborn could receive 34+ times the amount of mercury their body is capable of handling.  That's not to mention the other possible addetives including Aluminum hydroxide, Formaldehyde, Sodium Borate, and various others.

Do you believe vaccines are capable of erridicating disease?  Isn't it possible that the Hep B vaccine is as responsible for the decline as much as the polio vaccine was responsible for the "decline" in polio?  Or Measles, or Whooping Cough?  Where did you obtain your stats?

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gus
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Interesting that you say that it is most common in countries bordering the Mediterranean where there is a tendancy to consume more sugared and lifeless food and drink.  I read that the polio outbreak was more severe in the summer when people used more sugared food. I can't believe that there are no affects from the vaccine, here is a chance to do a long term study adding in all the factors such as diet,lifestyle and follow them through for 40-50 or more years. No...on second thought that should have been done starting 40- 50+ years ago.  Does the earth have time for us to do another study?  How close are we to being spit off into space?

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capricorn
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I disagree with your information. Healthy people are generally able to cope well with hepatitis B and eventually become immune. It's virtually only alcoholics and drug abusers who may get cirrhosis or cancer of the liver.

There is also now scientific evidence to show that the hep B vaccine (or any other vaccine for that matter) has ever prevented any diseases.

Finally, a German doctor working in Italy sent me the following information:

"In Italy, the hepatitis B vaccine was introduced as a mandatory vaccination

in 1991, by fast-tracking it under Minsiter of Health De Lorenzo - a doctor

and the son of a doctor - against the advice of Italy's highest health

authority and without parliamentary debate.

De Lorenzo is now standing trial on 97 charges of corruption and other

criminal activities concerning pharmaceuticals, including the accptance of

bribes in relation to making vaccines mandatory. The firm

SmithKlineBeecham has publicly admitted having made a payment of 600

million Lire (about US$ 460 million) to De Lorenzo".

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bagarino
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Re. PKP

Both my children had the jab, both are alive and normal... like millions of other Italian children who had the jab. Of course improved hygiene has helped reduce the transmission rates in hospitals but it won't prevent child to child transmission, or protect spouses from infected partners however they were infected.

Re. 'gus'

"Interesting that you say that it is most common in countries bordering the Mediterranean where there is a tendancy to consume more sugared and lifeless food and drink." You are joking aren't you? Do you live under a stone? Have you heard of the Mediterranean diet? The Italians are the longest lived people in Europe on average and they also have (along with the Greeks) the healthiest and most varied and nutrient rich diet in the Western World. Oddly... the further south you go, and the healthier the diet, the more Hep B you get.

capricorn. Babies and infants do not clear the virus and do not become immune. They go on excreting the virus all their lives and c. 10 die from cirrhosis, usually aged 40 - 50, and c. 1% die of carcinoma of the liver. Repeating falsehoods doesn't make them true and you should be ashamed.

re. De Lorenzo. His bribes were not connected with vaccines but licencing of all medicines passed through his office. He made most money from Bayer who make the Italian health system's aspirin which is $8 for 24 tablets!! At the time 600 mil lire was about $400,000... still a lot of money, perhaps enough to buy a house in a nice area but not a megabuck deal. Get your facts right, or be quiet.  

  
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jonallen
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The immune system of a baby is a baby of an immune system. I find it hard to comprehend how a baby's immune system is supposed to mature properly when bombarded by a modern barrage of vaccines, including ones it can't possibly benefit from. It seems that as science and technology accelerates, our ability to discern benefits and risks diminishes, which is needless to say, a scary situation. At this rate, the only people who have control over their own health will be forced to live outside of the law.

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When I was pregnant, I interviewed one of our city's most respected and loved pediatricians.  Knowing I was not going to vaccinate I broched the subject. All of his answers were text book denials.  "The internet has as many horror stories of non-vaccinated babies as vaccinated babies." He dismissed any study or book I brought up to him.  When I asked how an infant could possibly be at risk of Hep B, he told a story of a child playing in a park. This child found a hypodermic needle and the mom cought him playing with it.  He also told me that if I wasn't going to vaccinate, he did not want my child as a patient! Needless to say, I found a great group of open minded doctors. My mom's internist also freaked when she told him that I was not going to vaccinate. He told her that there is a great risk at daycare centers to pass Hep B from not so hygenic diper changing methods.  My heart breaks for those children whose parents are uninformed.  Thanks for such a great site.

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