Climategate: with business interests like these are we really sure Dr Rajendra Pachauri is fit to head the IPCC?
After the Climategate scandal erupted, few were quicker to dismiss the significance of the leaked emails than Dr Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
In no way, he insisted, just two days after the story broke, had the integrity of the IPCC been compromised:
“The processes in the IPCC are so robust, so inclusive, that even if an author or two has a particular bias it is completely unlikely that bias will find its way into the IPCC report,” he said.
“Every single comment that an expert reviewer provides has to be answered either by acceptance of the comment, or if it is not accepted, the reasons have to be clearly specified. So I think it is a very transparent, a very comprehensive process which insures that even if someone wants to leave out a piece of peer reviewed literature there is virtually no possibility of that happening.”
And if any investigation into the affair were necessary, argued Dr Pachauri, it ought purely to be a criminal one into how the emails came to light.
Pachauri said he doubted that trust in the IPCC would be damaged by the affair. “People who are aware of how the IPCC functions and are appreciative of the credibility that the IPCC has attained will probably not be swayed by an incident of this kind,” he said.
Quite so. And I’m quite sure that no one will in any wise have their faith in the integrity of the IPCC shaken by these revelations courtesy of the mighty Richard North.
North’s tribute to Dr Pachauri’s multifarious talents is so startling I think I shall have to quote it in full:
As reported by Reuters – with a slight correction: The head of the Asian Development Bank (ADP), Haruhiko Kuroda, warned governments that a failure to reach a climate deal in Copenhagen could lead to a collapse of the carbon market, which would hit efforts to deal with climate change make carbon traders very rich.
It helps of course to know that Mr Kuroda is best known in greenie circles for setting up the ADB Advisory Group on Climate Change – chaired by millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri, part-time chairman of the IPCC.
An interesting member of that Group is Dr Klaus Toepfer, Founding Director, Institute for Advanced Studies Climate, Earth System and Sustainability Sciences and former executive director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). And it was UNEP, of course, which set up the IPCC – which now has as its part-time chairman millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri.
One other member is professor Hironori Hamanaka, Chair, Board of Directors, Institute of Global Environmental Strategies (IGES). The IGES claims to be “a research institute that conducts pragmatic and innovative strategic policy research to support sustainable development in the Asia-Pacific region.” It will come as no surprise, therefore, to learn that the organisation works very closely with TERI, whose Director-General is millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri.
Yet another is Ms Huguette Labelle, also a Board Member of the UN Global Compact organisation, the very same UN to which millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri belongs. Hilariously, Ms Labelle is Chair of Transparency International, the global civil society organisation “leading the fight against corruption.” TI’s mission “is to create change towards a world free of corruption.”
The Board also includes professor Jeffrey D. Sachs, Director, The Earth Institute at Columbia University. This is the same Earth Institute which set up the Climate-Risk Center, inviting millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri to become its first Board Chairman.
One other interesting character is Dr. Emil Salim, an adviser to Indonesia’s President on environment and sustainable development issues. But he is also a member of APFED – the Asia-Pacific Forum for Environment and Development. One of its major activities is sponsoring the “Partnership Initiatives for Knowledge Network and Capacity Building” – in conjunction with TERI as a major partner, the Director General of which is millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri.
And last but not least is Professor Dadi Zhou, Director General (Emeritus) of the Energy Research Institute, which of course is otherwise known as TERI, the Director General of which is millionaire businessman Rajendra K. Pachauri.
No longer, it seems, does Rome hold a pre-eminent position. In this brave new world of climate change and sustainable development, all roads lead to Rajendra K. Pachauri.
Particularly interesting is Dr Pachauri’s connection with the “not-for-profit organisation” TERI. As we learn from its website, this used to stand for Tata Energy Research Institute, but was renamed in The Energy And Resources Institute in 2003. Nothing sinister, I’m sure, in its decision to play down the Tata connection; nor in the fact that Dr Pachauri makes no mention of the fact that he is funded by Tata on his website. And obviously, it is quite normal that TERI makes no disclosure on its website – or in its downloadable annual report (all you get is a pie chart with no figures on it) – about its financial arrangements: the pay scales of its 800 staff members and its esteemed director general are quite rightly hidden from the world’s prying eyes.
Nevertheless, as Christopher Booker has noted elsewhere, one of the global business interests which will make – and indeed already has made – large sums of money thanks to the climate doom scenarios of the IPCC, is the Indian giant Tata. By fingering CO2 as the primary driver of AGW, the IPCC has been primarily responsible for creating the market in carbon trading. Dr Pachauri was, of course, the lead author on the IPCC’s second report which paved the way to Kyoto – which in turn ushered in the world’s first carbon trading schemes.
As Booker reported, what has been great for Tata’s bottom line has not been so good for useful for the 1700 workers who recently lost their jobs in Redcar, North Yorkshire, when the owner of the Corus steelworks – Tata – decided to close its plant.
The real gain to Corus from stopping production at Redcar, however, is the saving it will make on its carbon allowances, allocated by the EU under its Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS). By ceasing to emit a potential six million tonnes of CO2 a year, Corus will benefit from carbon allowances which could soon, according to European Commission projections, be worth up to £600 million over the three years before current allocations expire.
Will this make any difference at all to the quantities of plant food – sorry, deadly, planet-destroying CO2 – pumped into the atmosphere? Not at all, as Booker goes on to explain:
But this is only half the story. In India, Corus’s owner, Tata, plans to increase steel production from 53 million tonnes to 124 million over the same period. By replacing inefficient old plants with new ones which emit only “European levels” of CO2, Tata could claim a further £600 million under the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism, which is operated by the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change – the organisers of the Copenhagen conference. Under this scheme, organisations in developed countries such as Britain – ranging from electricity supply companies to the NHS – can buy the right to exceed their CO2 allocations from those in developing countries, such as India. The huge but hidden cost of these “carbon permits” will be passed on to all of us, notably through our electricity bills.
Thus, at the end of the day, Redcar will lose its biggest employer and one of the largest manufacturing plants left in Britain. Tata, having gained up to £1.2 billion from “carbon credits”, will get its new steel plants – while the net amount of CO2 emitted worldwide will not have been reduced a jot.
This is the real reason why so many big businessmen, bankers, politicians, scientists – led, of course, by Al Gore – are backing stiffer, pan-global governmental legislation on carbon emissions. Because there are such stupendous quantities of money to be made.
Last year, on official figures, buying and selling the right to emit CO2 was worth $126 billion across the world. This market, now enriching many of our leading financial institutions (not to mention Al Gore), is growing so fast that within a few years it is predicted to be worth trillions, making carbon the most valuable traded commodity in the world. Forget Big Oil: the new world power is Big Carbon.Truly it has been a miracle of our time that they have managed to transform carbon dioxide, a gas upon which all life on earth depends, into a “pollutant”, worth more than diamonds, let alone oil. And many of those now gathered in Copenhagen are making a great deal of money out of it.
One thing is for certain in all this business: Dr Pachauri’s behaviour has been beyond reproach. We know this because Dr Pachauri is a fervent advocate of what he calls “sustainable consumption”. A committed vegetarian, he believes that we should all learn to fly less, be made responsible for energy use in our hotel bedrooms (”I don’t see why you couldn’t have a meter in the room to register your energy consumption from air-conditioning or heating and you should be charged for that”), eat less meat, and do without ice in our water in restaurants (”It is just an enormous amount of waste that we don’t even think about”). It would be quite outrageous to suggest that a man of such extreme ascetism could in any way be benefiting financially by the worldwide promotion of AGW theory.
Nevertheless, with the best will in the world, does the good Dr Pachauri not feel there might be certain potential conflict-of-interest issues between his role as head of the IPCC and his sundry business interests?
Oh, and while he’s mulling over that question, here are a few more of Dr Pachauri’s business interests listed below, as disclosed by Business Week.
Dr. Rajendra Kumar Pachauri is a Strategic Advisor at Pegasus Capital Advisors, L.P. He has been a Director-General of The Energy Research Institute (TERI) since April 2001. Dr. Pachauri has been Head of Tata Energy Research Institute, New Delhi (now known as The Energy and Resources Institute) since April 2001.He has been the President of the Asian Energy Institute since 1992. Dr. Pachauri has been the President of the International Association for Energy Economics … since 1988. He has been Chairman and Member of the Advisory Group at Asian Development Bank since May 2009. Dr. Pachauri has been an Independent Director of Oil and Natural Gas Corp. Ltd., since June 26, 2006. He serves as Vice-Chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Dr. Pachauri serves as Director of GloriOil Limited. He serves as Director of the Institute for Global Environmental Strategies, Japan. Dr. Pachauri serves as a Member of External Advisory Board of Chicago Climate Exchange, Inc. He serves as Member of the Advisory Board on Energy. Dr. Pachauri serves as a Member of the International Advisory Board of Toyota Motors. He serves as a Member of Climate Change Advisory Board of Deutsche Bank AG. Dr. Pachauri served as Chairman of the International Association for Energy Economics from 1989 to 1990. He served as an Independent Director of NTPC Ltd. (National Thermal Power Corp.), from January 30, 2006 to January 2009. Dr. Pachauri served as a Director of the Indian Oil Corporation Limited until August 28, 2003. He served as non-official Part-time Director of NTPC Ltd., from August 2002 to August 2005. Dr. Pachauri served as a Director of Gail India Ltd. from August 18, 2003 to October 26, 2004. He served as Director of Tata Energy Research Institute., since 1981. Dr. Pachauri serves as Member of National Environmental Council, Government of India under the Chairmanship of the Prime Minister of India. He serves as a Member of the International Solar Energy Society, World Resources Institute, World Energy Council. Dr. Pachauri has been Member of the Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister of India since July 2001. He serves as Member of the Oil Industry Restructuring Group, for the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas, Government of India. Dr. Pachauri serves as a Member of the Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister of India. He served as an Advisor to the Government of India. Dr. Pachauri also served as Director of Consulting and Applied Research Division at the Administrative Staff College of India, Hyderabad. He served as Visiting Professor, Resource Economics at the College of Mineral and Energy Resources, West Virginia University. Dr. Pachauri served as a Member of the faculty of several prominent academic and research institutions and has published 22 books and several papers and articles. He received the Padma Bhushan award. Dr. Pachauri was a Senior Visiting Fellow of Resource Systems Institute, East — West Center, USA. He was a Visiting Research Fellow at The World Bank, Washington, DC and McCluskey Fellow at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies, Yale University. Dr. Pachauri received a Ph.D. in Industrial Engineering and Economics from North Carolina State University, Raleigh, North Carolina, U.S.A. and a Masters of Science in Industrial Engineering in 1972.
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Climategate: Greenpeace hoist by its own petard
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Climategate goes SERIAL: now the Russians confirm that UK climate scientists manipulated data to exaggerate global warming
December 16th, 2009 19:21
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Climategate: why David Cameron is going to be disastrous for Britain
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Climategate: CRU scientists deserve Nobel Prizes – and very probably Knighthoods too – claims reasonable and unbiased New Scientist magazine
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Climategate: the lawyers move in – those scientists are toast!
December 15th, 2009 17:04
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James, you’re taking this out of context. As C02 levels rise, the possibility of conflicts of interest amongst Climate Change policy makers decreases proportionately – Phil Jones is working on a graph for this at the moment.
You see, as of the advent of the ‘climate change’ era, up became down, down became up and anything proves everything. Therefore the more money Pauchari makes from AGW hysteria, the less money he makes, as is evidenced in Briffa et al’s study of the tree rings in he yard of Pauchari’s mansion.
The Cultsings will be along shortly to provide references to peer-massaged papers put forth by the IPCCs professional fraud department.
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It’s good to hear about these men of honour who have the world’s best interests at heart.
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Yup – follow the money.
The TI connection is interesting. They’re not only funded by EU and EC dosh, and so would be expected to go along with the the farce but also, gosh, Tata.
It cracks me up when AGW proponents, plush and plump and lounging oiled and naked on waterbeds piled high with cash extorted from you and I, and thrown at this wretched fake, say “Oh but why would scientists spin, why would everyone go along with this lie, what would be in it for them???” MONEY!
The biggest pot of siphonable money since the Marshall Plan. A grand socialist scheme to transfer hundred of billions of dollars from the developed world, to the developing world, with a few billions snuck out to their own pockets on the way.
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*APPLAUSE*
Bravo, encore, more!
PS have posted a couple of links atthe end of the last thread you may find useful.
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Perhaps not pertinent, but a question:
Since the email FOI file has been acknowledged (and is being dismissed), is someone working on the harry_readme.txt?
It is no doubt far LESS comprehensible to the average individual than the discussion in the email file, and from some sporadic discussion I’ve seen ob blogs by IT wonks, it is far more damning in terms of what it reveals of the fraud.
This info on Pachauri et al is damning too, but could fall away from notice in the same way that some scientists are dismissed as oil shills, coal shills, whatever.
Keep ‘em coming! This info is outrageous, and kudos to you for continuing to keep it at the fore.
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So happy that we continue to give millions in aid to India. It seems they still need it.
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@platosays @barbarausa Thanks girls! I think this story is dynamite – more Watts Up With That than flip James Delingpole – but because it’s so heavy-duty there’s a danger it might not generate the same levels of reader interest as digs at Boris or Ian Hislop. It would be a shame if this were so, though. Carbongate – when it unravels – is going to be a much much bigger story than Climategate.
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The BIG question.. Why are our media keeping quiet about this? It should be shouted from the rooftops but we are deafened by the silence. Why do we only read it on a blog?
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James – another one for you from a comment at WUWT
“Anthony One of the first things CRU did after Climategate broke was to delete from their site all the papers and data sets put together by Dr Timothy Mitchell – who was respnsible for assembling many ( perhaps most ?) of the CRU data sets -as part of his Ph D I think.
Dr Mitchell published an article in Evangelicals Now in April 2000 which reveals his mind set and suggests possible bias in his data set assembly. He says ” Although I have yet to see any evidence that climate change is a sign of Christs imminent return,human pollution is clearly
another of the birth pangs of creation as it eagerly awaits being delivered from the bondage of corruption.”
At that time he was a member of the South Park Evangelical church,– I kid you not you couldn’t invent this stuff.
I would think a review of his work might be in order as part of the CRU investigation.” -
Where the hell is SuperMan when you need him?
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@platosays. Thanks – but perhaps for another day. I’m knackered after that Pachaurigate post.
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As regards “oil shills”, it must be repeated ad nauseam that CRU thanked both Shell and BP for their (financial) support.
See the foot of this page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080627194858/http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/about/history/
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The meek will inherit the Earth(-wide carbon tax).
The rich will prosper greatly at their expense.
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James, the story of one temperature data point in the whole of Antarctica [which is bigger than the USA] is a good simple WTF example of cherry picking data.
Land area of the United States 3,719 million square miles
Land area of Antarctica 5,405 million square milesIf you were to draw a comparison between the Antarctic station and the US – you’d have just one in Miami.
Here’s the data and lots of pix – the station is also now a settlement for scientists and tourists – it also burns over 15,266L of fuel a year to stay warm – no effect on local temps then – or the airport/runway they’ve built using black rocks.
And fuel source data http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=14585.
All that heat has to go somewhere.
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Gulp – just seems to get worse and worse! Where do you start!
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It should be shouted from the rooftops but we are deafened by the silence. Why do we only read it on a blog?
Why do you think?
wake up.
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This all helps in the regular discussions I have with friends when I have to deal with the quite reasonable question:
“What possible interest could anyone have in lying about global warming?”
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James – for £150 you deserve a lie in
The nice thing about this scandal is that it’s all there in the records – just waiting to be pointed out – tick tick tick
The RP story today is really excellent – many thanks to you and Mr EU Referendum.
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“Its the same the whole world over ain’t it just a bloody shame its the rich wot gets the pleasure and the poor that gets the blame.”
That a major industry has been allowed to sink without trace shows what type of people these are. Well if they are going to shut down the steelworks in Redcar maybe we should boycott indian call centres?
Keep digging James and you will hit gold dust or should that be coal dust.
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Dr Rajendra Pachauri may not be a whore. He’s a pimp.
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coldplay – Yeah – well at this rate carbon will be worth more than gold soon enough!
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Well I guess it puts Mr Pachauri’s reaction to the e mails into context – he would think that wouldn’t he – and for very good reasons!
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All the ingredients being prepared for yet another gigantic slush fund the piggies at the UN trough can get their snouts into.
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Dr Rajendra Pachauri, you ARE in reality Osama Bin Laden, and I claim my prize…
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Thanks James – there is so much to reveal about these IPCC “realities”. This sort of revelation does indeed help to explain some of the unbelievable guff that the IPCC and its “advisers”/”researchers” come out with.
As per the UEA emails – the £millions in grants and research fellowships seem to have great “pulling” power when it comes to “proving” MMGW ( or “climate change” which covers whatever weather we get).
This has got to be one of the biggest scams ever.
The Copenhagen farce becomes evermore so – just look at the posturing of certain “poorer” countries as they try to get massive cash handouts – it seems that this MMGW is solely about “what can I get out of it??”!
Keep up the great work please!
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It’s the Chicago Way
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If you missed this – it’s the most sensible/layman friendly explanation of climate change that I’ve come across. It balances both points of view without hyperbole and mentions the food price crisis due to biodiesel farming.
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/sensible-scientist.html
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Funnier even than the die hard AGW morons are the domesticated middle class intellectuals who think there’s no ‘one world government’ conspiracy behind it. For these worthless cowards there will be no escape from reality.
Your leaders were always calling for it, you just couldn’t believe your ears.
UN = 1 = one world government …….. Starting to make sense yet?
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James, Thank you for restoring my faith in British journalism. Yes, as you pointed out last week even PrivateEye has fallen for the AGW scam.
On a serious note, I am past caring what these jokers are up, tell me how to also get my snout in the gravy boat; what is the best investments for ordinary citizens to benefit from these ‘kings ransoms’ that are going to be made? Might as well try to join this Ponzi scheme while the going is good.
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One would almost think that cap and trade is a scheme for Western populations to finance the manufacturing of new plants and factories in India or China to replace existing ones in the West. Could it be that the West is going to finance the loss of its own jobs – and then pay higher prices anyway? Is it coincidence that unions are starting to disclose plans to go “international?” How does this help stop “climate change,” even assuming one believed it was happening as a man made phenomenon?
Perhaps a certain blogger might want to explore this aspect of cap and trade. Because even the public who sort of thinks it’s good to do something about this “warming thing” will lose enthusiasm if they understand the actual consequences.
Have I mentioned that in California this January old trucks have to be off the road? Something about carbon emissions. That puts independent truckers and small trucking companies out of business. That means delivery and shipping costs will be higher and more businesses will be lost and price of goods will be higher. Whatever those truckers and business owners and employees think about AGW and the science, I think they may not be proponents of losing their livelihoods. I think struggling consumers may even not want to pay higher prices for goods and services.
Perhaps a certain blogger might start to explore the actual consequences to actual people. In Britain the public may already understand, but in the U.S., the public has not a clue. A certain blogger would do a great service, now that said blogger is read in the States, to do “AGW-Land: Here’s Your Future and It Will Impoverish You.”
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this is repost from an earlier thread to the newest posted by Mr D:
copenhagen talks suspended
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8411898.stmtalks resume:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8412483.stm
but now its all about more time on kyoto. no new treaty this year? Booyah.evidently the poor countries aren’t quit willing to ban improving their citizens quality of life just yet.
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The weather’s supposed to be dire by the weekend.
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James, How does ONE man hold so many directorships? is it legal? Does he have to pay for them or what? i cannot believe that such a system is legitimate?
Like the jollygree I also would like to know how to profit whilst the going is good.
I might even profess to ‘believe’ in this scam if I could make as much as Gore the Bore has done since his flight of fancy film. Forget the name. But he is worth over $100,000,000 now-maybe even more! -
Dr Pachauri, an Indian railway engineer? Just how the blue blazes does that qualify, him to spout on about climate change! He can’t even stop Indian railways, from regularly killing its passengers.
For myself, I was a marine engineer. I was pretty good at keeping diesel powered ships engine rooms running. Climate change, forget it. I am firmly in the thermosceptic camp, climate change, yes. Man made, on your bike.
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This is dynamite. When the BBC get their hands on this they’ll lead all their news and comment programmes with it and demand straight answers from these guys. It will be the end of the AGW scam. Just wait and see.
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Owdal: “The BIG question.. Why are our media keeping quiet about this? ”
Reading Christoper Booker’s Sunday Telgraph articles over the past few years, I’ve always been perplexed. Surely if what this man is saying is true, I’d say to myself, it’s political dynamite – why isn’t it on the front page? Why not a squeak from our politicians? And if it’s not true why is it published at all and why is no one refuting him?
Reading yesterday about the Redcar plant closure I couldn’t help hearing Enoch’s voice ringing round my head: “We must be mad, literally mad.” I can only make sense of it in terms of the dominant elements of the political and media class being more aligned with the various corporate interests, including national governments, multi-national businesses, and trans-national entities like the EU and UN, who stand to gain from the scare, than with those of their constituents and consumers. In which case who will speak for the masses?
Every blog I see in every newspaper shows evidence of a broad consensus against the orthodoxy. And yet virtually no political representation among the major parties whatsoever. What has to happen for this mass of opinion to make itself felt? I’ve no doubt that the vast majority of people would not go along with the proposed transfer of resources, given some political leadership. But then I’ve no doubt that the vast majority of people didn’t want the levels of immigration that have transformed the country. But what did that count for? Any political leadership was stymied for fear of being “racist”. Just as Boris today fears being a “denier”. What’s the difference?
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I’ve never believed a *****g word the UN has ever uttered.
So when this ersatz fakir starts spouting;
“there’s no need for an inquiry” well it just makes me laugh, like Broon made me cry with laughter, when he said “Britain is well placed to weather the international credit crisis!”
They are all so bent they’ve gone eliptical, its why Nu-labour see eye to eye with them.
There is no altruistic movement here, all those sad twats marching at the weekend have been duped, there is serious dosh been made and this lot would give the Russian Mafia a run for their money in corruption terms.
And still the naive/stupid/blind/asinine/fraudulent MSM are still shoving it down peoples throats, whats it going to take? -
James, you say at 4.30 p.m.:
‘Carbongate – when it unravels – is going to be a much much bigger story than Climategate.’It is indeed THE big story, and should concern us much more than the junk science.
How would any of you feel if you lost your job because the owner of your factory can make more money out of selling ’shares’ in something which is based on nothing?
And what would you say to the politicians who are letting this happen – and who are taxing all of us who still have work to pay for these obscene schemes?I’d be glad if someone could explain to me how this is going to ’save the planet’.
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And so the electorate, sickened by the political and financial corruption and deceit, turn to the only option available to them to bring an end to it all… Her Majesty’s Opposition – only to find them absent from their post… they too are off sucking hard at the great global-warming teat. Intoxicated, unfit for duty.
They say nature abhors a vacuum… we shall see.
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@yaosxx
“coldplay – Yeah – well at this rate carbon will be worth more than gold soon enough!”Ummmmmm diamonds? Sorry couldn’t resist that one.
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More grist for the mill and a useful riposte to those arguing that AGW sceptics are in the pay of Big Oil, whereas it seems that the boot is on the other foot (hat-tip Open Europe):-
“EU environmental policy awards millions in windfall profits to oil companies and heavy industry
As national ministers meet this week in Copenhagen to discuss a new climate change deal, Open Europe has found that under the EU’s Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), oil and gas companies’ operations in the UK were granted a surplus of carbon permits worth €28.6m in 2008. For example, ExxonMobil received €4.3m and Total received €5.4m.
Meanwhile, heavy industrial polluters such as Corus received €47m, while cement firms Hanson and Lafarge received €17.3m and €20.2m.
Due to the economic downturn, many heavy polluters, such as oil and gas companies and heavy industrials, have been left with a surplus of carbon permits – essentially a free asset that firms can sell on to bolster their short term profits.
The glut of surplus permits on the market has driven down the price of carbon and led to a sharp increase in the number of permits being traded via carbon exchanges. Open Europe has found that the two largest carbon trading exchanges, European Climate Exchange and Bluenext, which includes members such as Barclays Bank, JP Morgan, Merrill Lynch and Shell, have earned a combined average of €245,000 a day from the trading of carbon permits so far in 2009, in transaction fees alone. In total, they have made over €57m between them in 2009.”
Open Europe press releaseWhilst all this is going on, what is happening to the actual pollution? Is it disappearing into thin air???!!!
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The farce be with you.
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Has any reason ever been given why this blog is so hard to get to and seldom linked off the front? Took me a while to work out news >> news blogs >> you are here. It’s clear where the Telegraph’s editorial policy is on AGW, but they must realize Delingpole’s corner is a tremendous traffic driver at the moment.
Now isn’t the time for news organizations to turn up their noses at hot stories, I would’ve thought.
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msher1 nice to see you back after a little break, you are correct the big issue is to tell as many people as possible just why they are going to pay more, why they are going to lose there houses, why they will go bankrupt and why there once thriving economies are now third world hell holes or soon will be, someone should be telling the Redcar steelworkers and there families why they really lost there jobs and why there local MP is probably complicit and needs throwing out at the next election by an independent.
The more people see how much this going to cost and this message will take some time to sink in for most people. All of these extra costs will be amplified by VAT at each step of the process.
When all manufacturing has left and the service industries contract as a result what is left who pays for the dole the NHS, education well the answer is no one.
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riverboy: “The Cultsings will be along shortly to provide references to peer-massaged papers put forth by the IPCCs professional fraud department.”
thecultsings is noting further scandal-creep. This is getting ever further away from the cru hack. Is delingpole in transition to carbon-gate? What a yawn-fest. I think this is where I get off.
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iridium you have just saved the planet yes we could turn all the CO2 into diamonds, all we have to do is ignore the fact the process involves massive amounts of energy but we could use all the wind energy that never stops. We must tell Al Gore.
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colliemum the industry I work for has a low carbon footprint due to the fact we use those big things that grow in the ground about 60 feet tall name escapes me at the moment, we plant more than we ever cut down as we wish for our source material to always be available.
We recycle as much material as possible in our manufacturing process and have even found uses for waste products to even generate our own power to help in the manufacturing process. However for all that they implement carbon trading a lot of our mills and plants will be shut down and we will have the insane situation of Americas forests being cut down shipped to China to be processed and then shipped back again as finished product, well they will not at that point care about sustainable forests and soon they will deplete the supply or when no one can afford to buy there product stop. -
I see someone turned on thecultsings program, good program now fetch me the newspaper good program.
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The UN’s Occult Purpose Revealed by Their Own Writings
The Vatican and UN working for the same one world government and religion under a one world leader
By Greg Szymanski, JD
Feb. 21, 2009In years past, Pope Paul VI once read a papal encyclical that boldly called on the nations of the world to ban sovereignty and form a world government.
As reported by William T. James in a book he wrote called Foreshocks of the Anti-Christ, published in 1997, he noted that Paul VI held a staff with a bent cross, a symbol of Lucifer with an emaciated Jesus arms stretched out in a Masonic triangle with pine cones at his feet.
Coincidently, Pope John Paul II throughout his tenure carried the same staff.
And just like Paul VI, John Paul II called for a “New World Order”, dedicating an entire Jan. 1 2004 speech to this concept while extolling the virtues of unity and sactioning the work of the United Nations.
In another book entitled Broken Cross: Hidden Hand in the Vatican, the mention of the staff with the bent cross in the hands of John Paul II come up again, the writer quoting a Masonic encyclopedia regarding its hidden meaning:
“A broken or bent cross is a symbol used by satanists, black magicians and sorcerers of the middle ages making use of it to represent the Biblical term the ‘Mark of the Beast,’” said the author, reminding us that it is just another blatant symbol of the Anti-Christ.
With the Pope now declared as the moral religious by all government leaders as well as the likes of 33 degree Freemason, Billy Graham, the tool used by all those in the New World Order camp to bring about their sysnthesis of change will be the United Nations.
And it is clear when one studies the intent of the UN, its purpose is both political and spiritual.
Let’s look to organizations created by the UN as well as quotes from the several top UN officials, past and present.
In 1994, in a World Goodwill Newsletter that publication reported the creation of a UN Interfaith Organization called the Temple of Understanding, the goal being to create a “spiritual UN.”
It’s supporters in fact were not small fries but people like Eleanor Roosevelt and Anwar Sadat, indicating this organization has top level approval.
Two other facts standout, verifying the UN’s purpose far exceeds just the legal and political realms.
Founded in 1995, the United Religious Organization was founded under the UN’s watchful eye, stressing a unification of all religions. According to UN documents, the organization fell into place by 2000 and became fully operational by 2005.
In a statement printed in Dispatch Magazine, June 2001, Robert Muller, a former UN Asst. Sec. Gen., had this to say:
“Do not worry if not all religions will join the United Religious Organization. Many nations did not join the UN at the beginning, but later regretted it. It was the same with the European communities and it will be the case with the world’s religions because whoever stays out and aloof will sooner or later regret it.”
Do not take Muller’s word’s lightly as he remains one of the biggest UN movers and shakers and through his own admission and theoretical associations is a high level occultist with a hidden agenda.
Known as the father of global education, Muller’s UN credentials include being the author of the World Core Educational curriculum and drawing up the framework for world media coverage.
According to several researchers, what every person has to learn henceforth is inspired by this man. However, this begs the question who inspired Muller?
In the book, The World’s Last Dictator by Dwight L. Kinman, Muller states:
“We must move as quickly as possible to a one world government, one world religion under a one world leader.”
In other writings, Muller claims to have been deeply influenced by Jesuit priest Teilhard de Chardin, saying “I myself have been deeply influenced by de Chardin and his global long term thinking.”
Called the father of the New Age Movement, Muller further states that de Chardin always viewed the UN “as the progressive insutitutional embodiment of his philosophy” (Jesuit philosophy).
De Chardin wrote in 1955: “Although the form is not yet discernible, mankind will one day awaken to a ‘pan-organized world’”.
Although this should tip-off readers to the UN’s occult agenda if you know anything about the occult hidden agenda of the Jesuits, Muller further links his ties to Luciferinism with this quote listed in the forward of his World Core Curriculum.
“The underlying philosophy upon which the Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teachings set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey.”
Bailey, a high priestess of the New Age with ties to H.P Blavatsky as a former head of Blavatsky’s Theosophy Society.
In this startling quote, Bailey tells us of the occult agenda behind the formulation of the UN:
“…the effects of the UN in the formulation of a world plan can be seen in the planning and preparation of the New Age.From the very start of this unfoldment, three occult factors have governed the development of these plans,” said Bailey, who wrote 24 books of esoteric philosophy under a company called Lucifer Publishing.
Speaking of Lucifer while supposedly receiving channeled messages from Tibetan Djwal Khul, Bailey added in one of her works entitled The Reapperance of Christ:
“The major effect of his appearance will surely be to demonstrate in every lands the effects of inclusiveness…all who see no true or basic difference between religion and religion or between man and man or nation and nation will rally around him; those who embody the spirit of exclusiveness and seperateness will stand automatically and equally revealed and all men will know them for what they are.
It is clear to those Bible readers, Bailey is not talking about the Jesus in the Bible, but the countefeit Lucifer who is worshipped by the few “enlightened men at the UN” controlling world policy through occult teachings.
To further make this clear ask why the UN Prayer room is shaped like a Trapezoid after looking up the signifance and purpose of the Order of the Trapezoid as told by occult writers?
Although quotes abound linking the Vatican, the Jesuits, Freemasonry, the leaders of the U.S. and the UN to Luciferinism, we will leave you with only one, leaving the rest for future articles.
Here is a quote by Brock Chisolm, former director of the World Health Organization made in the Christian World Report in March 1991:
“To achieve world government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas.”
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sounds a bit like the Michael Martin brush off … can the telegraph take this further … we wait in anticipation …
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“This is getting ever further away from the cru hack. Is delingpole in transition to carbon-gate? What a yawn-fest. I think this is where I get off.”
cultsings – MANY HAPPY RETURNS! GOSH FINALLY GOT RID OF HIM!
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So – what things are caused by global warming?
Experts and other people claim:
“Acne, agricultural land increase, Afghan poppies destroyed, poppies more potent, Africa devastated, Africa in conflict, African aid threatened, African summer frost, aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pressure changes, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk, anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear, Arctic warming (not), asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased…”
and these are just the ones beginning with A.
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/global-warming-causes.html
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@S Weasel 6.49
The easy way to find all stories and posts is to use the DT search box with “Climategate” and select most recent under the headers. This ensures you catch all the relevant stories and posts.Well done James, I worry how long it will take to get through to these people about the scam, and the most effective way of causing the mainstream media`to implode, and recognise the problem.
Unfortunately as I have posted before, if the scam in exposed the effect will be collapse of carbon derivatives, world trade and governments. For Joe plumber the result will however be much the same as cap and trade.
I have read blogs based on both points of view and concluded that ALL the earths resources are being used too quickly, and this will only be resolved by population reduction either by planning (unlikely) or war/pestilence/starvation (most likely)
The truth is very harsh but there seems little alternative the only questions are when and what will be the trigger over the resource tipping point.
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The penny is beginning to drop and James Delingpole has realised that the carbon trade market is a story. That is all it is: A story. What has been on here for a few weeks is not a story it is the unravelling of a spat between journalists and scientists and obsessives that will make not a bit of difference to anyone whomever is right: If anyone ever bothers to make a decision on that point and nominate a victor.
Now we are seeing that there is a Capitalist opportunity in climate and in the fear that has been generated about excess burnt carbon in the atmopshphere. Is this a surprise? No of course not. The markets are always looking for an angle and this is an old one that has been developing for a while.
Not this, nor the spat however, are the real story and that is that the whole thing is deflecting everyone (and governments are grateful for this deflection of attention) from the underlying and terrifying facts about the increasing risks to world peace brought about by a lack of economically extractable oil, the money being pumped into military industrial complexes to further arm already over-armed nations in order to protect their essential interests; and the way in which these complexes have become, in some cases, monsters out of control the cutting back of which will produce unacceptably high unemployment figures and develop political risks for powerful politicians.
There is a way of satisfying both the need to decrease potential conflict and increase employment and that is not to directly cut-back the military industry but to re-direct, some of, its resources into the research, development and the installation of alternative energy sources. This industry is uniquely suited to advanced industrial development of the type economically viable in the West. This is the real story, not the futility of a spat and the predictable reactions of capitalist markets.
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Jeez, this man has more titles than Mandy!
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mr manonthemoor:
respectfully: humour (manbearpig) and cognitive dissonance stemming from rational debate will undo all the hard work of the propagandists. battle has been joined.
regarding how tricky this blog is to find without a specific google search: meh. who owns the Telegraph again?
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I have posted this before but I will try again.
From a link on WUWT.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/175641-climategate-revolt-of-the-physicists
If you need to know what the likely candidate for GW is, watch the lecture. It really is watchable and very convincing AND very serious. -
Jonathan wrong blog Damien Thompson awaits I’m sure he will love your comments go knock yourself out.
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@duckham
Please sir, how much oil in the ‘american reserves’ alone. Oil is not scarce, but worry not. If ever there is a time that it becomes scarce then price will dictate what becomes used as the next fuel…being as that could be quite a long time in the future the likely hood is that we are using a different technology by then anyway, and i mean naturaly switching, not this forced socialism crap.
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Duckham how many times we still have lots of oil, also carbon trading is a farce as no one actually reduces CO2 output, it’s all about trading eff all round and round and making someone rich and the added costs passed on to the consumer you and me, it’s basically a fancy way to levy a tax. This is a real scandal and until we realize what horrible impacts this will have on the worlds poor especially in your adopted homeland millions already on the edge will starve.
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Hah, Cultsings, at least my predictive models work almost as well as the CRU’s. Yes it is an incredible yawn when the pilot of a sinking ship is found out to have taken out insurance on said vessel, isn’t it? Particularly when one’s cult has spent the last decade accusing dissenters of being big oil shills. Ah well. C’est la vie, Cultsings, now that you have Tony Blair, the most honest man on the planet, on your side, you can’t possibly lose any more credibility. Maybe he’ll help the AGW camp find the WMD’s in the Medievil Cool Period.
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@ Jonathan
re Blavatsky/UN/NWO/Dodgy Papal Symbols
That was a great post.
It’s all about hearts and minds. Hitler knew this, and that’s why he feared the Catholic Youth movement and was afraid to ban it when he banned everything else; and that’s why he looked at the Jesuits when thinking of the SS.
But the quote that tells us most about the mind control of UN/NWO and other evil organisations is the one you provided:
“To achieve world government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas.”
Conclusion
Imagine a situation of global catastrophe. Imagine an American ‘incident’ in which much of the military is over-stretched, over-seas, or simply poisoned by vaccinations and who would step in to fill the void?
The US military stands in the way of any NWO simply because many still believe in the Constitution and one true God. It would be hard to get to the next phase of takeover without taking out the US military.
PS As to the Carbon Racket, this might simply be a quickening of the demolition of the US economy and society in order to engineer a problem that needs a solution. This might sound crazy if it were all about economics, but if you are interested in a ‘new age’ then there has to be a ground zero to build from.
PPS There are plenty of Catholics who are aware of the recent Popes and their antics – upside-down crosses behind chairs and talk of ‘man as Christ’ (JP2) and such gibberish.
Talking of endtimes prophecy, the Iranian leader, Arthur Dinnerjacket, recently accused the US of standing in the way of their ‘mahdi’ or saviour arriving. Some Christians actually believe this individual to be what they call the antiChrist.
Interesting times.
The truth is stranger than fiction. It is amazing how many leaders are involved in secret societies or the occult or both.
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manonthemoor You’re all gloom and doom and I totally disagree. There’s room for a few billion more people on the planet and most of the problems of today are caused by mismanagement and corruption. Technology can and will solve many of man’s problems and the Earth’s population will eventually reach a stable sustainable level through education and proper management. Global warming would be a big help if it existed. There would be longer growing seasons and Siberia could be farmed. There is no need for population reduction but politicians like to scaremonger. People’s basic needs are not great. The biggest resource hogs are the wealthy so if you were to argue for a population reduction to free up resources and wanted to kill the fewest people to free up the maximum resources then unfortunately we the people of Western Europe, Japan and North America would be the ones to go. Fortunately no-one is calling for our deaths.
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oriphus I agree good point. Price usually forces change. When oil becomes too expensive other technologies will be used. Fearmongering is the tool of corrupt dictators who want to justify control and asset seizing. The ones who shout loudest for population control always seem to be the biggest resource hogs. Those with private jets and yachts etc.
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I thought the IPCC was the Independent Police Complaints Commission. See how non-issues take everything over?
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@Thomas33
I would like to believe your positive outlook, my conclusions are however based on following the resource and climate change arguments in detail.
Basically during the last 200 years mankind has expanded using skill, inventiveness, technology and resources.
The resources we have used are the key because they cannot be easily replaced, oil, gas and water then basic`minerals. If AGW is proven to e a scam then coal can be used to provide energy we need in particular electricity.
At present there is no valid renewable technology which can provide the electricity we will need in 2020, unless we use both coal and nuclear, and our way of life will move back close to a pre-industrial lifestyle
It will take some breakthrough to create an aircraft which is able to use renewable energy, but I do forsee nuclear powered large cargo ships and liners.
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Google UK has just offered “climategate” in it’s auto search function for the first time that I have seen… though the number of hits seems to be down to 22m from 30m last week which seems odd.
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Very good work James.
For some time now I have felt that the real impetus behind the AGW scare machine has been the plan to set up a globally agreed structure for carbon trading [which could then easily be used for taxation] and somehow getting the gullible public not only to accept it but to actively call for it. This plan has taken some years in nurturing and right now is coming to fruition. The propaganda part has worked like a dream with the environmentalist pressure groups and various celebrities falling for it hook line and sinker. But in reality it has precious little to do with the environment. That was just a front to keep any possible dissent occupied while the system itself was gradually calibrated and wheeled in into place. The masses would be too busy arguing amongst themselves about science and stuff they can’t possibly know about until it’s too late. Then once it’s implimented they will of course have to pay. It’s clear who the beneficiaries of such a system will be – most of them are there, or have representatives there, amongst the people ’shaping the policies’ in Copenhagen. Dr Pachauri is a classic example.
Interesting to notice that Tony Blair thought his presence in Copenhagen was necessary. Who is he representing I wonder? He tellingly gave his opinion to the press that eventhough the science may not be certain, he felt we should get on with sealing the deal while we can “as a precaution”. How caring and cautious of him. But I think we’ve heard a similar line to this before. Let’s be a little less trusting this time. For example; As an advisor to JP Morgan, one of the most important agents in the carbon credit racket, [or even on his own account as Head of TBA], I think we can have a pretty good idea why he’d really want the deal finalised so quickly.
How many rats can you smell in Copenhagen this week?
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daniel1979:
use startpage. i get a total of at least 67,099,653 results.
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JD –
Any appetite for associating “Climategate” – meaning CO2 science data frauds – with “Carbonhagen” meaning CO2 insider/outsider trading and churning frauds?
“Sent December 14, 2009
Dear Prime Minister Harper:
RBC carbon MindBox for Piggy Palace snuff films
Hawks CAFE believes that RBC investors used a ‘Carbon MindBox’ network to pay the Piggy Palace Good Times Society – a federally registered charity – for snuff film content that had been backhauled from various FC-KU* crime scenes established at the Pickton Family pig farm near Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada.
Our KSM agents have evidence that RBC used MindBox to launder carbon-cap payments to pig farm contract killers on receipt of wireless proof that the victim(s) life and property assets had been liquidated and that the Piggy Palace crime scene had been secured by or against extorted (?) public servants, including local judges and law-enforcement officers.
“Murders at a Port Coquitlam pig farm, allegedly by Willie Pickton who with his brother, David Francis Pickton, ran a registered charity called the Piggy Palace Good Times Society, a non-profit society whose official mandate was to “organize, co-ordinate, manage and operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy groups” Evidence that the women were wrongfully killed in snuff film ring with content transmitted via virtual private networks linked [by Macdonald Dettwiler] to BC OnLine. Justice James Williams suspended jury deliberations on December 6, 2007 after he discovered an error in his charge to the jury. Earlier in the day, the jury had submitted a written question to Justice James requesting clarification of his charge, asking “Are we able to say ‘yes’ [i.e., find Pickton guilty] if we infer the accused acted indirectly?” On December 9, 2007, the jury returned a verdict that Pickton is not guilty on 6 counts of first-degree murder, but is guilty on 6 counts of second-degree murder. The B.C. government currently has a lien on the property for $10 million as part of the Pickton defense fund. The government’s mortgage was registered on the suburban Port Coquitlam property and a nearby smaller parcel, on Feb. 28, 2003, a year after police raided the farm and arrested Pickton. Documents obtained by The Canadian Press show a mortgage principal of $10 million with no interest rate and no repayment schedule. The lender is listed as the B.C. Crown, represented by the attorney general. The mortgage was handled by a lawyer for the ministry’s legal services branch, who authorized its registration in a Feb. 27 letter to the New Westminster land title office”
“In 2009, RBC was among 67 companies named to the Carbon Disclosure Leadership Index 2008, a prestigious honor roll of world leaders at understanding and managing the financial risks and opportunities resulting from climate change” .. “TORONTO, NEW YORK and LONDON, July 18, 2008 — RBC Capital Markets is a General Clearing member and market maker on exchanges around the world, trading on such exchanges as the European Climate Exchange (ECX), the Montreal Climate Exchange (MCeX), the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), the NYMEX Green Exchange and soon under the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative in the Northeastern United States. The firm’s new emissions trading group also provides access to over-the-counter (OTC) markets by acting as counterparty, and accommodates spot and forwards, as well as various OTC structures. RBC Capital Markets is a significant player in the Canadian GHG emissions trading market, with the infrastructure to be able to grow quickly as U.S. and global demand increases. In addition, RBC’s Futures and Base Metals Group of Global Prime Services provides execution, clearing and custody of EU Allowances (EUAs) and Certified Emission Reductions (CERs) certificates for markets in North America and Europe.”
“Canada Revenue Agency alleges investment advisers at a branch of RBC Dominion Securities Inc. helped clients set up offshore accounts that their clients used to evade taxes, a CBC News/Globe and Mail investigation has learned. Two CRA affidavits say RBC Dominion Securities investment advisers in Victoria assisted in setting up 16 offshore entities with LGT Group in Liechtenstein. While that is not a crime, 13 Canadians who held these offshore entities have all either made voluntary disclosures admitting to evading taxes or are being audited by the CRA for tax evasion. The three remaining entities were either established but never used or are anonymous entities; no establisher or beneficiaries have yet been identified in connection with the entities. The CRA is now investigating whether more Canadians are doing the same thing through RBC Dominion Securities advisers across the country. Canada Revenue has requested from RBC Dominion Securities “a detailed list of all retail accounts held or that have been held with RBC Dominion Securities Inc. (RBC DS), that were created for account holders of Liechtenstein, or having mailing addresses in Liechtenstein, at any time during the years 1999 to 2008.” According to the CRA, Colin Ross, a former investment adviser at the brokerage’s Victoria branch, was connected to 15 of the entities. The CRA said he “assisted” in setting up the foundations in Liechtenstein, which is known for its banking secrecy laws. All of those foundations, in turn, opened up accounts in Switzerland with RBC Dominion Securities, the investment dealer arm of Royal Bank of Canada.”
KSM has determined that RBC investors use MindBox – essentially a brain-dead Turing Machine – to pay snuff film producers only after receipt of evidence that victims will not violate the 350 ppm cap in atmospheric CO2 set by Barack Obama and Richard Sandor, a faculty member at the Kellogg School of Management and the chairman and co-founder of the Chicago Climate Exchange with the psychopathic Maurice Strong.
Please explore the links herein and contact us if you don’t understand why you must boycott Copenhagen and extradite Maurice Strong to face justice in a Canadian court. http://www.captainsherlock.com/
Yours sincerely,
Field McConnell, United States Naval Academy, 1971, Forensic Economist 30 year airline and 22 year military pilot, 23,000 hours of safety, Tel: 218 329 6190
David Hawkins Tel: 604 542-0891 Former oil industry operating engineer; Blow-out specialist, safety officer, trouble shooting. Decades of experience in explosives, incendiaries, radioactive materials and 12-D simulations.
…………………………………..Notes: Northwestern University Transportation Center (1954) – Directed by Professor Hani Mahmassani. Secure tunnel into Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Kristine Serco Marcy or Kellogg School of Management (KSM) VPNs to move snuff-film cameras, weapons, money and oath-takers through FC-KU (Femme Comp Inc on KU-band) crime scenes.”
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@mayday
have reposted your link (wich i’ve nearly finished listening to myself) to the beeb (ya total waste of time but hey i’m relentless). a good link, my thanks.
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I think the Climategate leak is a diversion from Obama’s plans for a legally binding 350 Cap to support the Carbonhagen racket run out of Chicago and London.
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captainsherlock you only seem to out at night your not a vampire are you.
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captainsherlock you only seem to come out at night your not a vampire are you.
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captainsherlock on a more serious note no the Tiger Woods story is the big distraction and no he can’t legally bind us using the EPA the law suits have already been filed apparently to stop that one.
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If Tony Blair supports Carbon trading well that settles the matter it’s all a big fraud, the man is 70% weasel although I’m sure I’m defaming weasels here. The other 30% must be snake. This man must be stopped at all costs (legally) from doing any more harm to the world.
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I’m in time-lagged B.C., the first senior government in North America to impose a carbon tax ($10.00 / ton and climbing $1.00 per year until 2020) and a cap and trade system on its nearly-bankrupt citizens.
It’s not pretty because B.C. expendables and rebels are geting killed or burnt out as per the pig-farm prostitutes (100 women killed and eaten in oath-taking cannibal feasts) and the arson today at Squamish.
“An investigation is underway into the cause of a fire that destroyed an apartment complex in Squamish, B.C., on Sunday morning, leaving eight families homeless. The fire broke out about 5 a.m. PT in the two-storey complex on the 40000-block of Government Road. Nobody was hurt, but several units in a neighbouring apartment were also damaged, along with a number of vehicles. Police say they are treating the cause of the fire as suspicious, until the investigation is concluded.”
Problem is JD’s blog is not attracting the kind of people who can recognize unlawful debt scams which drive Obama’s RICO operations through the Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management in Chicago.
Incidentally KSM is in partnership with JP Morgan, RBC and Northen Trust in the $55 trillion loan syndicate operated under the Carbon Disclosure Project heading your way; call me a vampire if you like but see how much of your blood these guys will take first.
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crownarmorer – you must be joking; the “EPA lawsuits have been filed to stop that one”.
Cantor Fitzgerald, Espeed and CO2e.com filed a lawsuit to stop the Obamarxists in Chicago from using their cap-and-trade patent.
Problem is the plaintiffs worked in the North Tower so Obama had them all (685) killed on 9/11 and transferred the custody of the patent to JP Morgan.
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Crownarmourer, yes and no. Didn’t mean to queer this blog with what may seem an aside, but I think its all intertwined, The Round Table is behind most of the criminality going on in many spheres and the UN is its path to Global Goverance. Just wanted to emphasise this has nothing to do with climate change.
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captainsherlock nope new lawsuits were filed the day EPA issued it’s grand proclamation a few weeks back, should lock them up in court for three years. The bill from congress is DOA in the senate no one is going to commit political suicide on that one.
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regarding climategate being a diversion:
anyone looking at the ‘codex alimentarius’?
seems pretty brutal to me and comes into international mandatory effect in ummm 17 days?
just a thought peeps
fight the good fight.
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Just in case it escapes you Crownarmourer, the MindBox automated debt recovery system sits in the lenders’ work flow and is triggered when its owners in the CAI and Carlyle Private Equity Groups decide to liquidate the assets (life and property) of the borrower.
That’s why Blair has been sent to Carbonhagen.
“08/22/05 “Sunday Mirror” TONY Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of businessmen in the world after he leaves Downing Street. The PM is being lined up for a highly lucrative position with the Carlyle Group – an American-based investment giant with strong links to the White House and the defence industry. The firm has been nicknamed “The Ex-Presidents Club” because it has had a host of former world leaders on its books including George Bush Senior, his former secretary of state James Baker and former British PM John Major. There a also a large number of former US Army top brass.”
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Birthers and Truthers have filed lawsuits but they don’t know how to deal with the MindBox Turing Machine.
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Jonathan what you mentioned is a whole different blog and could be interesting in itself as who knows what the silly buggers at the top believe in or not, you do hear some strange rumours though. Yes they may be pushing one world religion and I suspect it’s Islam. Other than that we can only fight our enemy with the truth and every legal means at our disposal you start quoting satanism or whatever they will use that as the key to accuse us all of being crazy. Heck captainsherlock comes off as being crazy and he is probably onto something a lot more scary than we know and maybe we should delve deeper but it’s a specialized knowledge field and we can only understand parts of it.
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Fair enough crownarmourer but my career has taken me into difficult places where most people don’t want to be; means that I can warn of what;’s coming your way.
But ask yourself how did the Barcaly Brothers finance the acquisition of the Telegraph Group from Conrad Black; two bob to a knob of goat’s shit it was with a loan from HSBC through MindBox.
Means the BB’s may have been told to keep the Climategate debate raging as a diverison from the 350 Cap and Kill business model which pays hit teams with a share of the victims life and property insurance.
That model goes back to the Civil War (Courtenay Bomb)
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@crownarmourer
@captainS:accusing people of organised murder is somewhat, umm passionate. however cap’nS was the one who brought the carbon disclosure project and KPMG and GIM to my attention. i’ve viewed his links with interest. without a similar level of devotion of time and resources i can’t refute what he says however i’m afraid i can’t just take his (and his links) word for it. no offence captainsherlock.
Either way: the UN is patently not what it presents itself as.
HL Mencken said:
“The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.”
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Duckham on Dec 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
“See how non-issues take everything over?”
Yeah, like hysteria about non-existent oil shortages.
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You worry too much manonthemoor. China for instance has plans for hundreds of coal fired power stations but is also looking ahead and there are solar panels on the majority of city houses in China now. Nuclear and coal are fine for the time being. More money will be invested in other technologies as oil and gas become more expensive. The planet is two thirds covered in water. As supplies of freshwater dwindle and become more expensive then it becomes viable to use desalination plants. The planet surface is two thirds covered in water. Saudi Arabia has always been short of water and they are doing fine. In the UK bottled water is often more expensive than petrol. Desalinated water has to be cheaper than what we are already paying for bottled water. It is important to manage resources carefully especially the less common minerals, but there is no immediate doomsday scenario. I think the population will fall with education and development. Population growth is slowing and the population will peak and then begin to fall. We’ll be fine. Take a look at this article, its quite positive: ‘Fertility and living standards: Go forth and multiply a lot less’ http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14743589
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@captainsherlock
My better half, she’s more suspicious than me and she won’t believe Climategate isn’t a planned event. I’d love to believe that this was the work of a good hearted whistle-blower but I always get caught dreaming.What was it GURU used to say, “when you think you know the whole of it, you don’t even know the half of it”
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An excellent article in the Times Higher Educational Supplement, of all places:
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=409454&c=2
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@ christoperm:
Don’t delude yourself that captainsherlock (David Hawkins) only makes these statements on a blog site, listen to Him on a Public Radio station: (Its in 7 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbJEZQQMRYY
It certainly gives ‘Flesh’ to His Posts.
@ captainsherlock:
Its ‘The Liberty Show on R.B.N.(??) I hope You don’t mind.
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JD et al – We are going to have to raise our game.
Four days before the Obamarxists try and get the 350 cap rule passed as a globally-binding law to allow the CDP loan syndicate to automate debt recovery and payments to assassins by customized MindBox rule sets.
Osama bin Laden said that “al-Qaeda has three independent networks to move its assets around the world and all the resource of the British and the Americans couldn’t stop it”
Very stupid remark; boasts say a lot about an enemy.
Important to note that the danger is not from al-Qaeda assets but from the networks which move them and assuming OBL is right about English speakers being unable to stop them, they are probably francophone networks.
The Frogs have hated us for 1,000 years.
OBL’s boasts caught our attention 8 years ago and Captain Sherlock has now identified the three networks which only appeared independent to him, but were in fact joined at the top by Entrust public key infrasture and the MindBox Turing Machine.
“For companies such as MDA Mindbox, responding to the need for expedited loan modifications entails drawing on as much of the company’s disparate resources as possible to get an accurate view of the condition of both the borrowerand the collateral. Bill Richer, president of MDA Mindbox, noted that MDA’s holdings include other units with housing and consumer data that can be used to build a decision tree regarding a particular loan and property. Mindbox’s challenge has been to take a rules engine tailored to the front end of the mortgage process and adapt it to work on the back end, where decisions about modifying or refinancing a troubled loan can benefit from automation. “The problem lenders have is that it’s just an overwhelming workload. They don’t have the man-power or the adequately trained manpower,” Mr.Richer said. “What we bring to the table is not only the rules technology, but also with DataQuick we have access to all sorts of property data,” he said. DataQuick is also an MDA company. But assessing candidates for modification requires more than just updated information, Mr.Richer said. A lender also needs to look at the trends that have taken place involving both the borrower and the borrower’s home since the time of origination.”
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@legion1:
my thanks for the info and link.
@Captainsherlock/Mr Hawkins:
fight the good fight sir.
@catweazle’s latest post:
possibly one of the most important pieces of journalism of the decade (disbarring mein hosts valuable contribution over the last few weeks
).my favourite quote from it is:
‘Today, global-warming “deniers” have all been told they must fall into line with “the science”. But this is not science, this is propaganda. And we are not being asked to be more rational but to suspend our own judgment completely. That, not “runaway climate change”, is the most dangerous threat to the world today.’
ps Mr D: If the Coward books suck you owe my nan some cash!
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i daresay its been posted here before but the poet and entertainer clive james has a few things to say about the ‘consensus’:
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alrighty:
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Classic example of MindBox loan recovery through the 350 rule (victims stop violating the cap because they are dead!), was that after most of the rebellious CO2e.com traders had been killed in the North Tower on 9/11, MindBox automatically filed a double-insurance claim on behalf of the insurance syndicate led by Traveler’s whose directors at the time included Robert Rubin and the treasonous ex CIA boss John Deutch.
Another example of MindBox loan recovery through the 350 rule (victims stop violating the cap because they are dead!) was that after most of evidence of dotcom short selling had been destroyed in the SEC offices of WTC#7, MindBox automatically filed a double-insurance claim on behalf of the $400 million mortgage syndicate led by Peter Peterson, chair of the Balackstone Private Equity Group ann the Council on Foreign Relations.
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Captainsherlock “The Frogs have hated us for 1,000 years.”
The feelings mutual
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The Times leads with a story on Fat Al being caught telling porkies: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6956783.ece
I discovered why the DT is burying Climategate. I bought the Spectator last week, and only got round to reading it yesterday. There`s a load of Warmist propoganda in it – a whole section, plus advertising.
Murdoch is sniffing the wind and ready to do a Nelson through the Warmist battle fleet the moment the wind turns (read your Trafalgar), whilst the Twins focus on subjugating their serfs in the Channel Islands.
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Great video Joe:
Does anyone remember that Churchill had to sink the French fleet?
I know people in the French elite who still want revenge.
Does anyone know that the French through Femme Comp Inc of Chanilly VA, control the C4ISR systems of our aircraft carriers equipped by Thales (Saddam’s preferred weapons supplier, the guys who bought Racal for whom I built the defence industry’s most advanced AI/DAEX multisensor analysis system)?
Does anyone know that Thales configured the triaxial QRS11 GyroChips which steered Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilots on 9/11?
Sad, depressing and pathetic.
“By June 10, 1940, the French Army was shattered, but the French Navy was amazingly intact. Francois Darlan, the Admiral of the French Fleet told Churchill point-blank that the Fleet would be sunk before it was surrendered to the Germans. Churchill later remarked of Admiral Darlan that he had “but to sail in any one of his ships to any port outside France to become the master of all French interests beyond German control.” Darlan could have become “the chief of the French Resistance with a mighty weapon in his hand.” Churchill believed the Admiral could have been the “Liberator of France”. But that was not to happen. Although Admiral Darlan was strong in his commitment to prevent the Germans from seizing a single French ship, Churchill was not convinced. Losing Britian’s last fighting ally in the war is one thing, but allowing that ally’s fleet to fall in the hands of the Germans was something to lose sleep over. The concern was not over the French using their fleet to assist their new conqueror. The real concern was that Germany would train their own sailors to command those ships. Members of Britain’s own navy spent time with the commanders of the French Fleet. They were convinced that the commanders were dedicated to the cause of not surrendering to the Germans. On June 17, France pressed for peace with Germany. Before France could officially surrender, Churchill tried to convince his War Cabinet to attack the French Fleet. The War Cabinet refused. There were several concerns on the table. For one, the attack would surely result in the loss of British troops and ships. Second, although getting beaten by Germany and showing eagerness to throw in the towel, France was still an ally. On June 24, France and Germany signed an armistice. Part of that agreement was the French could keep their ships, but Germany would gain control over items such as passports and tickets. Hitler treaded lightly concerning the ships and did not push for full ownership. He feared such aggression would inspire the French to keep fighting. Hitler’s concerns were not known to England. However, on July 1, Churchill was finally able to get the backing of the War Cabinet to sink the ships if they would not be surrendered. On July 3, the British surrounded the French Fleet at the port of Mers-el-Kebir right outside Oran, Algeria. Churchill’s message was clear: sail to Britain, sail to the USA, or scuttle your ships in the next six hours. At first, the French refused to speak to negotiators. Two hours later, the French showed the British an order they had received from Admiral Darlan instructing them to sail the ships to the USA if the Germans broke the armistice and demanded the ships.
Meanwhile, the British intercepted a message from the Vichy Government ordering French reinforcements to move urgently to Oran. Churchill was done playing games and ordered the attack to his commanders,
“Settle everything before dark or you will have reinforcements to deal with.” An hour and a half later, the British Fleet attacked. In less than ten minutes, 1,297 French soldiers were dead and three battleships were sunk. One battleship and five destroyers managed to escape. British Response While the French were furious over the events, the reaction in England was the exact opposite. The day after attacking the French, Churchill went to the House of Commons to explain why he ordered the attack on the former ally. Churchill declared, “However painful, the action we have already taken should be, in itself, sufficient to dispose once and for all of the lies and Fifth Column activities that we have the slightest intention of entering into negations. We shall prosecute the war with the utmost vigour by all the means that are open to us.” -
Aux armes citoyens!
Brits, Aussies, Canucks and Yanks wake up dammit.
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Christopher
Codex is a big worry. Anyone who doesn’t accept AGW to be starved to death?
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Jeremy Deedes:
Do you remember Jim Hawkins, my brother?
I think you were at Sandurst together and I seem to remember meeting your father Bill Deedes at your house in Kent.
For his or God’s sake; help wake up your country!
“Deedes fought in the Second World War as an officer in the 2nd Battalion of The Queen’s Westminsters, one of the territorial units of the King’s Royal Rifle Corps, gaining the Military Cross near Hengelo, Holland in April 1945. He was also the only officer to serve in the King’s Royal Rifle Corps for the whole duration of the war. He was married to Evelyn Branfort (who died in May 2004), by whom he had two sons (one of whom died young) and three daughters; Deedes’ son, Jeremy Deedes, is a director of the Telegraph Group of companies. His daughter, Lucy Deedes, is a former Master of Foxhounds and was the first wife of Crispin Money-Coutts, the 9th Baron Latymer.”
“THE STORY about Prince William being given an “absolute rollicking” at Sandhurst for losing his gun brings to mind a similar saga involving a previous Prince William. “We were doing an Eton corps exercise in Norway in the early sixties and Prince William of Gloucester, who was killed in a plane crash in 1972, was in my platoon,” says Jeremy Deedes, former managing director of the Daily Telegraph, who was in the late Prince’s house at school. “We were doing the water crossing on a fjord with all our clothes and rifles meant to be wrapped in our bivouacs and carried above our heads. William was not very good at back stroke with his kit held out of the water and he dropped his. The whole lot went to the bottom.”
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@ Laurence England:
Here’s those Links I couldn’t Post the other Day.
A, who, why, what, when of the history of Codex Alimentarius:
http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/W9114E/W9114e03.htm
The origin of the W.T.O (I.T.O.. G.a.t.t.):
http://hdr.undp.org/docs/publications/ocational_papers/oc10b.htm
How the WTO facilitates protection of the environment:
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They have just gave a Carbonhagen bone to Henry Bienen, outgoing president of Northwestern Univeristy and former employer of Obama mentor and Weather Underground terrorist leader Bernardine Dohrn.
We allege that Bienen is the de facto boss of the CIA’s Special Activities Division which provides sabotage, assassination and propaganda services to the U.S. Senior Executive Service (S.E.S.) headed by Kristine Marcy, Field’s sister.
“Just in case you thought the Obama administration was incapable of confronting modern-day, 21 century threats as they arise, here’s a little piece of news that may put your mind at ease. Ahem: Global warming is now officially considered a threat to U.S. national security. For the first time, Pentagon planners in 2010 will include climate change among the security threats identified in the Quadrennial Defense Review, the Congress-mandated report that updates Pentagon priorities every four years. The reference to climate change follows the establishment in October of a new Center for the Study of Climate Change at the Central Intelligence Agency… The drafters of the Quadrennial Defense Review were instructed by Congress to accept the assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the international body established by the United Nations and the World Meteorological Organization to gather and report world climate data… Analysts at the National Intelligence Council are trying to develop a set of early warning signs that could suggest where the next famine might arise or which countries are in most danger of being destabilized as a result of dramatic climate changes….” Finally, after 8 years of dithering by the previous administration, we have a president who is willing to take on America’s real enemy: The Weather Insurgency…..”
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This is a head fake to distract from a legally-binding 350 cap for the CDP’s MindBix loan syndicate …
“The key decision on preventing catastrophic climate change will be delayed for up to six years if the Copenhagen summit delivers a compromise deal which ignores advice from the UN’s science body. World leaders will not agree on the emissions cuts recommended by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and are likely instead to commit to reviewing them in 2015 or 2016. The delay will anger developing countries who, scientists say, will face the worst effects of climate change despite having contributed relatively little of the man-made greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. A draft text published by the UN says that there should be a review in 2016, which could result in an “update of the long-term global goal for emissions reductions as well as of the adequacy of commitments and actions” .. The Times has learnt that negotiators from developed countries are planning to use the idea of a review to justify failing to agree the 25-40 per cent cut in the 1990 level of emissions by 2020, recommended by the IPCC.”
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Here is a little local blurp from outside of DC:
I just returned from a “public input meeting” on our county’s own little Copenhagen.
We have a netroots-elected supervisor who knows how to create credentials out of whole cloth, who secured us a $2.2M “stimulus” grant, of which we spent $250K to commission a report on how we’d spend the rest.
She sole-sourced it to a friend, who drew up a “strategy”–not a “policy”–which said we would spend 30 years exploring policies and hiring staff and creating departments to implement things that aren’t even enabled yet under our laws–like a local version of intracounty cap and trade, and everyone’s favorite: an energy audit of every residential and commercial property in the county, with each property to be brought up to still-as-yet-undetermined standards before the property could change hands.
Our county in nearly $170M in the hole already from declining revenues, but there were all the hunt country greens there to demand its passage, and the creation of staff to implement it.
And I don’t suppose for a minute that the blogs lists of Organizing for America (formerly the PAC Obama for America), which exist to “implement the President’s policy at the local level, since some people want to oppose them”,who are also involved in having created the policy (ahem–”STRATEGY”) have a single thing to do with that!
I went and said my bit, that we didn’t need to spend money to promise to spend more money we don’t have, and my teen daugher got some driving practice on a 40-mile round trip on bad roads in deer season.
Any odds on whether it will pass?
lol, but it isn’t funny.
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captainsherlock ok lets accept people are being murdered for being inconvenient or just being plain competition and someone has insured them in case of accident to protect there potential losses and they would have to have some link to allow this insurance or it would be illegal and has been for many years to discourage murder for profit. If you were found out you or your company at the very least would be obliged under law to pay all of the money back correct as it was illegally gotten. If that was proven and you state they have been doing this for years then it would collapse all those financially (bankrupt)that have benefited as well as some serious jail time.
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new article at WUWT:It will be VERY interesting to see what IS up with that.
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crownarmourer .. Yeah that’s the angle .. We filed the case here …
“May 1, 2007: FILED BY Field MCCONNELL as Civil Case 3:07-CV-49 IN Fargo Courthouse, North Dakota DRAFT 45 PREAMBLE for a CONSTITUTIONAL REMEDY to PRIVATE-EQUITY RACKETEERING and two-party corruption IN GLOBAL GUARDIAN 9/11 Claim for Punitive and Treble Damages for Wrongful Deaths on 9/11/2001 resulting from movement of sex, sabotage and murder-for-hire assets by the racketeering use of interstate or foreign commerce networks, financed by Private Equity, Arbitrage, Insurance and Hedge Fund Frauds between October 1970 and September 2001. Prove that the defendants are related to Canadian International Development Agency and CAI-Carlyle Private Equity Groups which are allegedly engaged in the extortion of leaders of the Queen’s Privy Council of Canada, the U.S. Departments of Justice and State and the UN Environment Programme and traders in Carbon Emission Credits under the Kyoto Protocol, collectively ‘GLOBAL GUARDIANS’. Ask courts to stop private-equity use of interstate or foreign commerce to move private assets on public networks or public assets, including assets of pension funds, insurance companies and banks, on private networks and prevent defendants from absconding with assets, hiring assassins and extorting federal and state politicians….. [Maurice Strong, Al Gore are named defendants as well as Field's sister Kristine Marcy plus 100] http://www.captainsherlock.com/
We are knocking them off their timing …
“Walkout heightens failure fears for climate marathon
COPENHAGEN (AFP) – Negotiators worked through the night Tuesday to prevent a UN climate summit from ending in catastrophic failure after developing nations staged a five-hour walkout and China accused the West of trickery .. Demonstrators threw petrol bombs at police who tried to move in and put out the fires, who responded by launching tear gas and entering the Christiania refuge with dogs to make the arrests. Related Article: Chaos in Copenhagen as participants flood climate summit The summit’s daunting goal is to tame greenhouse gases — the invisible by-product derived mainly from the burning of coal, oil and gas that traps the Sun’s heat and warms the atmosphere. Scientists say that without dramatic action within the next decade, Earth will be on course for warming that will inflict drought, flood, storms and rising sea levels, translating into hunger and misery for many millions. The stakes were underlined when a new UN report said that some 58 million people have been affected by 245 natural calamities so far this year, more than 90 percent of them weather events amplified by climate change. And climate guru Al Gore warned Monday that the record melting of glaciers worldwide could deprive more than a billion people of access to fresh water.” -
captainsherlock you do realize the suit you filed sounds crazy and will probably be thrown out of court. File the smaller stuff in droves stuff to mess them up, the more probable the better, Msher1 understands the legal angle better than I do, concentrate on stuff that can be argued agains’t in courts or you had better have real evidence to back it up, documents etc. Take a step back and think what can you win and prove and build on it step by step. Win one case then build on it to make the next case. The law depends on what precedes it. Think the long term and build a strategy around it, UK law looks at Canadian law for examples to use in Judgements. This takes time. Argue climate warming is false before you present Lesbian assassins think does that sound crazy or not. One thing at a time.
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Why, oh why does this excellent piece of investigative journalism have to be in a blog? It should be on the front page of the DT.
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You should expose post-normal science, James. If not you then who.
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@Adam I’m going to. Got very excited when I saw you link to it a while back. Please give me a few pointers. I can’t remember which blog you mentioned it on….
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Al Gore Makes Himself a Laughing Stock
Mr Gore said new computer modelling suggests there is a 75 per cent chance of the entire polar ice cap melting during the summertime by 2014.However, he faced embarrassment last night after Dr Wieslav Maslowski, the climatologist whose work the prediction was based on, refuted his claims.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6815470/Copenhagen-climate-summit-Al-Gore-condemned-over-Arctic-ice-melting-prediction.html -
A snowy dusting in Victoria’s summer
Sam Terry, Friday December 11, 2009 – 18:12 EDTMost people consider summer a time to wear shorts and thongs wherever one pleases, with little thought of ski jackets or snowboards. However Victoria’s Mount Baw Baw saw a light dusting of snow, and it’s already two weeks into summer.
A cold front crossed the nation’s southeast during Thursday, bringing gusty winds and some good falls to southern Victoria.
Mount Baw Baw was one of the many locations to receive these falls, 31 millimetres in fact. Part of this was snow, around five centimetres, not enough to rejuvenate the ski season, but enough to create an excited buzz.
Melbourne itself didn’t miss out. The city recorded 10 millimetres, now making a total (so far) of 30 millimetres.
Surrounding suburbs also had quenched rain gauges, with the largest falls over the eastern suburbs, right in the way of the southwesterly winds behind the front.
Saturday will see winds ease and isolated showers abate in southern Victoria. It is also unlikely that there’ll be any more summer snow… at least until next Thursday.
- Weatherzone
© Weatherzone 2009
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@ crownarmourer
re Jonathan’s post
‘Yes they may be pushing one world religion and I suspect it’s Islam. Other than that we can only fight our enemy with the truth and every legal means at our disposal you start quoting satanism or whatever they will use that as the key to accuse us all of being crazy.’
Just a thought here: when guys like James Delingpole and a few others started talking about a global warming conspiracy it was seen initially by many as a bit ‘out there’ and implausible – our nice leaders and scientists and politicians ALL involved in a massive conspiracy and coverup? Preposterous!
However, this is the way that BIG stories get broken. People start sharing info. They discuss the things that they are not ’supposed’ to talk about, regardless of the threats of becoming outcasts. Then more people research things and add their info and the pool of knowledge builds.
And IF the story has any credibility and it has ‘legs’ then it will get up and run on its own. The climategate/Carbonracket story is up and running now because the info is in the public domain.
As to Jonathan’s pieces of the puzzle, I would say that this could well be the next very interesting piece of a ‘globalist’ puzzle that helps explain the whole thing.
Many apparently disparate groups and organizations seem to have a convergent evolution – they seem to be singing from the same song-sheet. But what is the song? Who is writing the music? If anyone. Let’s keep an open mind and let the evidence speak for itself. If there is any.
There is a BIG story if there is the infiltration of the world by secret organisations and ‘mystery schools’, and most people by now have heard of Bohemian Grove or Skull and Bones. I needn’t mention Freemasonry.
Of course there is a story here. And this story might explain the context in which the Carbon racket is being played – a slush fund for a takeover that includes, finance, military, economic and even religious planning.
The Popes historically stressed the need for their power over both ‘temporal’ and ’spiritual’ aspects of society. They still have managed some claim to the spiritual but lost the temporal hundreds of years ago. Hard as it is to imagine the import of this these days, but the spiritual dimension of power is not underestimated by all…and certainly not by those leaders who take their roles in these secret/secretive societies very seriously.
Not that I am suggesting that the Catholic Church is behind this. If anything the story is one of infiltration. My point being that powerful new leaders know the drawing power of thought and deeply held beliefs.
We must talk about such things simply because we’re not supposed to.
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VERY IMPORTANT
Sorry but it is. Did anyone hear ‘Toady’ this morning, Sir David King, pompous, risible old fart and sclerotic champion of AGW was questioned by a wimpy Evan Davis re the ’stolen emails; his response, prickling, hissing denial; this is a MUST HEAR people, ’bout 2/3 of the way through the programme, just after Ann Atkins did ‘Thought for the Day’ ie just before 8.00.http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console
‘Good Heavens, what are you saying … the science of climate change … the scientific community IS OF ONE VOICE.
Utter, vintage, bollocks.
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@ backs2thewall
On BBC 1 news last week we were told that ’scientists agreed’ that greenhouse gasses contributed to global warming and that temperatures were increasing at an alarming rate.
Now where do I start?
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@backs2thewall
I agree I heard it as well
Also the Express !! has front page cover on MMGW scam and a full page inside repeating what most bloggers have been saying and now the DT have reported at 9:45 the Express story.
Perhaps the press will come out of the closet this week
@ Catweazle 12:25 am EXCELLENT LINK
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backs2thewall – got your message and will do.
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HITLER’S YOUTH climate change alarmist STRIKES AGAIN…PUNKED LORD MONCKTON…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDubnFU3BXE&feature=player_embedded
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@christopherm on Dec 14th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
In view of recent events, I find it particularly concerning that the “Sunspot weakening papar”
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James – I love the way you carry on in your own little corner while COP15 is going on! There are so many things you could debate and comment on re COP15, in particular the views of developing nations that have arisen in recent days. Why don’t you talk about the things that acutally matter? You could still talk about your skeptic viewpoints etc. in relation to daily events at COP15, yet you continue down this silly route of character assination (not doubt promoting the death threats that have been sent in recent weeks). Well done! I know that you put your name in google then there are a lot of people saying bad things about you, but don’t go on the offensive all the time, talk about what matters!
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James here is a paper in favour of post normal science. http://nome.colorado.edu/HARC/Readings/Saloranta.pdf
You could try google scholar or science direct to get papers against. Its not real science and it uses an extended peer review base to give unsound science some artificial credibility. Its no more than a scam. Here’s a link to a better article at science direct. http://tiny.cc/postnormalpolitics323 -
Sheesh Delingpole!
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James Here’s another article arguing in favour of post normal science being necessary in order to make political decisions in situations of scientific uncertainty (but at the cost of objectivity and critical thinking). http://www.pik-potsdam.de/avec/peyresq2003/talks/0920/de_chazal/background_literature/dechazal_paper_allen.pdf
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James This is an article discussing the pros and cons of post modern science. ftp://ftp.cs.kun.nl/pub/TWM/Env.Ec.Mod/subst.assignments/Policy_dialogue.pdf
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James, I said to you after the debate with George Monbiot that you could be the HL Mencken of this generation. Mencken was not trained as a scientist but at a time when the vast majority of the world’s scientists, at all the prestigious places, said that eugenics was solid science he wasn’t afraid to say loudly that it was junk – and dangerous and inhuman junk at that. For me this article alone makes you the most important journalist of your generation. Standing on the shoulders of giants like North and Booker and acknowledging that fact, as you rightly do. We salute you, sir!
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backs2thewall on Dec 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Just listened to that Sir David King. A perfect exemplar of the jumped up rent seeking mandarin bureaucrat now ruling the roost here as much as at the EU and UN: “Good gracious! are you suggesting the science of climate change isn’t settled?” Who the f*** does he think he is? There could be no clearer sign of what he thinks he is. He’s the master not the servant of the public. The BBC there to serve as his mouthpiece.
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A quote from the Times Education Supplement, link posted by Catweazle 12.25.
This should be front page Telegraph:
“A paper by Richard Lindzen and Yong-Sang Choi, called “On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data”, published in July 2009 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, examined the modellers’ case for CO2-induced global warming. It offered 12 graphs, 11 of them based on the most sophisticated climate models, all but one of which showed that as the temperature of the surface of the seas increases slightly, the amount of heat then trapped in the atmosphere by water vapour increases – a key element in accelerating the “greenhouse effect”. We should be worried.
Yet there was that odd graph out, the 12th one. As Lubo? Motl, a sceptical physicist, joked, could it be that this was a tainted model – with its assumptions “tweaked” to fit prejudices by climate-change “deniers” funded by the oil industry? But no – the graph that contradicted all the others was the one based not on a model but on satellite measurements. It showed the Earth’s oceans dampening the heating effect.
So what sort of factors mess up the models? Things like changes in ocean currents, changes in the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere, changes in cloud cover – just about everything that determines climate, really. Alas, there is as yet no way to calculate these. And so, the simple fact is, in our climate modellers’ own words: “At present, no climate models have included the full range of effects.”
Policymakers seem not to be aware of what the modellers know: that the results of their climate simulations are “likely to remain speculative for some time to come” and that people should be “extremely wary of extrapolating results to longer periods”.
This demonstrates that the present climate-change models aren’t just useless – by offering spurious precision, they are worse than useless.
How, then, does a theory that is incomplete and missing essential data become orthodoxy?”
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Think the work we’re looking for Sean is c**t.
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“Think the work we’re looking for Sean is c**t.”
Yes he was rather curt.
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f12009 on Dec 15th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
“(not doubt promoting the death threats that have been sent in recent weeks)”As opposed to your lot, who would have us “deniers” arrested, prosecuted and sent to reprogramming centres, which would likely have big chimneys sticking out at the back, because we don’t worship at your specious church of AGW?
“Should there be legal accountability when people intentionally mislead the public given the gravity of the harms to people and environment caused by global warming?
Some have answered yes by filing lawsuits seeking to hold deniers legally responsible for a civil conspiracy.”
Link: http://solveclimate.com/blog/20091206/civil-conspiracy-lawsuits-filed-against-climate-change-deniers
The spirit of Matthew Hopkins is abroad in the land, in the form of such as yourself, f12009.
“talk about what matters!”
Funnily enough, quite a few of us believe that exposing and countering the biggest threat to our liberty and financial stability DOES matter.
I assume you’re some sort of enthusiast for “post-modern science” or whatever the latest attempt to take us back to the Dark Ages is called.
“For our own good”, naturally.
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This has now been brought up in Strasbourg:
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