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27 Responses to “Militarizing Police Depts. With Your Bailout Money”
  1. emmekelley on February 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Readers will have to carry on in my absence while I try to recover.

    Texpat, take half a bottle of that PINK STUFF and continue on, since you being the LST big time contributor that you are and earn the BIG bucks. We will leave it up to you to continue the story and not I. Great post. :)

  2. Phil_M on February 11th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    The police militarization pork is probably the single most disgusting aspect of the stimulus free for all.

    It is bad enough that this stuff is wholly unnecessary and wasteful. But unlike other items of pork in the bill, these types of expenditures pose a physical danger to innocent civilians whenever they are deployed.

    There are some completely offensive things in the pork bill other than this. But last I checked, condoms can’t be used to mow down innocent bystanders in a botched SWAT raid.

  3. bob42 on February 11th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Looking on the bright side, the flash-bang grenades didn’t torch the house, the police didn’t shoot the dog, and the kids were apparently unharmed.

    It was done swiftly, and that’s the one word I can use to prevent a standoff. It was just taken down swiftly,” said Maj. Doug Hansen, of the Kansas City, Kan., Police Department.

    Princy said she came home and police were there.

    “They took my brother-in-law and my husband. They had one of my daughter’s in a cop car. My dog got out. I have no idea what’s going on now.”

    Princy’s 4-year-old daughter and a friend’s 2-year-old daughter were inside the house with the suspects when police threw a flash bang and raided the house. They said they believed guns and ammunition stolen from two Kansas City pawn shops were being stored inside, but they had to wait for a search warrant before they could look in the house.

    “I’m lost. I just want to know something. I want to be able to get in my house and take my kid in there,” Princy said.

    Kansas City, Kan., police said the FBI was taking the lead on the investigation, and there was no word about what if anything they found in the house.

    This was a gun bust, not a drug bust. Typically, when significant amounts of contraband are found (cash, guns or drugs) the raiding organizations go orgasmic and seek publicity for their achievements.

    When they mum up about a bust, it typically means that they screwed up.

    Also from Balko/Cato, this interesting Interactive map of Botched Paramilitary Police Raids: An Epidemic of “Isolated Incidents

    “If a widespread pattern of [knock-and-announce] violations were shown . . . there would be reason for grave concern.”

    —Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, in Hudson v. Michigan, June 15, 2006.

    Yes Virginia, there is reason for grave concern.

  4. Big45Iron on February 11th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Texpat, I find this whole comparison to prostitutes to be patently unfair.

    With a prostitute you know in advance what you are getting, and what it will cost. That’s truth in advertising and honest commerce.

    To compare them to mayors or any other politician is grossly unfair and besmirches the dignity of prostitutes across the country. You owe every hooker in the land an apology.

  5. Big45Iron on February 11th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Where are the requests for more prisons so the really bad guys can serve longer sentences?

  6. Ken Kelley on February 11th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Texpat, et al: I agree that the entire stimulus package monstrosity should be shot down [pun intended], and agree that the red light cameras are the most egregious subversion of criminal activity being shoved into civil court for the sole purpose of being a money grab (Since they’re put up by for-profit ventures, just why do they need funding?) for the primary purpose of collecting fines without the inconvenience of actually going to court. However, the rest of that stuff, speaking in large generalities, is not completely without merit. HOWEVER, it is certainly not the purview of the federal government. If it’s important enough to the local population, let them come up with the money.
    As to the armored vehicles, etc; check again on what’s spilling across the border with Mexico.
    Now, $60K for “five tactical entry rifles” (whatever those are) sounds rather expensive, on a per-item basis.
    Clearly, the landscaping mentioned is not the job of the feds. (Hey, I use a lawn crew which works for $20 a pop.)
    Actually, the “live fire” house is not such a bad idea. What do you think the military does for practice? Real bullets, real buildings.
    There is, if you remember for a minute, very much some real-life experience of when the outlaws are better armed than the law enforcement.

    To me, the whole answer revolves around the issue of who is supposed to be paying for it. And it is NOT the federal government.

    my 2¢,
    – Ken

  7. a crazy canuk on February 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    They must also need money for dealing with unauthorized cow costumes.

    http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/02/08/schools-and-cops-a-dangerous-combination.aspx

    Spring Towry said she got to the school… just in time to see 54-pound Evelyn - who was diagnosed at age 5 with Asperger’s Syndrome, a high functioning form of autism - being walked to a police car with two officers at her side. “She started screaming ‘Mommy, I don’t want to go! What are batteries? What are batteries?’” Towry said. “She didn’t even know what she was arrested for.”

    Towry, who lives in Ponderay, said Evelyn told her that she had been refused entry into a school Christmas party that had been delayed until after the holidays because of a string of snow days, because she refused to take off her beloved “cow costume” - a hoodie with cow ears and a tail.

    Your welcome Phil

  8. carbon-credit on February 11th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    #2 Phil_M…for once I agree with you on this “cop-nonsense”…forget the goodies and the toys and add about a billion to my pension fund instead…now that is what I would call tax dollars well spent!

    Enjoy…

  9. Phil_M on February 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    As to the armored vehicles, etc; check again on what’s spilling across the border with Mexico.

    Armored vehicles to a border county in New Mexico - A-OK. In addition to the criminal threat, there’s actually a use and a function for them there - APCs usually tend to be designed for off-road performance, making them ideally suited for making a bust against a heavily armed drug cartel in the middle of the desert.

    But APCs for main street in Peoria? That’s a different story. There is absolutely NO legitimate law enforcement need for that type of weaponry in a typical populated area.

  10. Big45Iron on February 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    In addition to 50 cals on the border, I’d give them mortars and TOW missiles too. That’ll make the libs go crazy

  11. wagonburner on February 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    #10 b45
    Some 105mm Howitzers wouldn’t hurt, either.

  12. Phil_M on February 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Not that it should come as a shock to anybody in the militarized police state we live in, but a judge in Pennsylvania was just indicted for taking kickbacks to sentence juvenile offenders to privately owned boot camp facilities for minor crimes.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_re_us/courthouse_kickbacks

    In one case the judge sentenced a 16 year old to three months in boot camp for building a fake myspace page that made fun of her school principal.

    Forget military industrial complexes. We have a police industrial complex in this country, and you can safely bet that the suppliers of all these police toys are firmly behind the pork package.

  13. semperloco on February 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    All this while the violent crime rate is down in most of the country and the border remains open. Flashback - at the time of the American Revolution, when the Second Amendment was written, the private citizens had the same equipment as the military. Do you think they would object to a call for parity?

  14. texpat on February 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    #6 Ken Kelley

    Actually, the “live fire” house is not such a bad idea. What do you think the military does for practice? Real bullets, real buildings.

    For 600,000 bucks, I’ll fly the whole Sparks, Nevada police department to Houston and let them shoot up 6 $90K houses.

  15. LivelyDJ on February 11th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Not wanting to dig through all the pages but it surprises me our own limo liberal Bill WHite didn’t have his hand out.

  16. pimlico on February 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    haven’t the mayors heard of the Militia?

  17. whitetop on February 11th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    If the Cy-Fair School district board had been smart they would have requested $80 mil to pay off that sport complex just to get their sorry asses out of trouble.

  18. luv2hammer on February 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    METRO Police Department is sending a group of officers to SWAT school and have a SORT division with bomb experts and a designated sniper.

  19. Big45Iron on February 11th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Gunny Hathcock trained police snipers from all over the world when he was the instructor for the Virginia Beach PD. I asked him about Ruby Ridge once. He didn’t say anything, but he just hung his head and shook it back and forth. I didn’t ask him anything else, so what that meant is open to interpretation. But I took it to mean that the snipers employed there did a sorry job with their own personal conduct.

  20. hamous on February 11th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    The worst part of this foolishness is it feeds the paranoid delusions of the FEMA-camp troofers.

  21. vlou on February 11th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Wow! This is not a good thing unless we are all going to help secure the border from the ILLEGALS/terrorists. Of course, we hope these police departments/enforcement groups will get the proper training so they will not accidentally self-destruct.

  22. Phil_M on February 11th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    A couple months ago HS Precision firearms, a long range rifle manufacturer, received a product testimonial from Lon Horiuchi - the infamous sniper at the Ruby Ridge shootout.

    Their customer base went nuts and they issued an immediate statement, dropping him from their future catalogs.

    http://www.hsprecision.com/thenews/news.htm

  23. Phil_M on February 11th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Some here might also remember that the DA in Idaho indicted Horiuchi for manslaughter after the Ruby Ridge shootout. He pulled some strings in the “law enforcement community” and got a federal judge to clear him of any wrongdoing on account of sovereign immunity.

  24. Robert M on February 11th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Once you open up the “Taxpayer” Bank, they all get in line for some “stimulus”. Heck how about giving some money to me to fix my car that’s just as good a reason as any and besides it was MY MONEY anyway.

  25. I.P.A.Bill on February 12th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    I’m MUCH more cocerned about the 4 Plus Billion For ACORN .

  26. I.P.A.Bill on February 12th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    concerned opps

  27. slash on February 12th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    It’s done . . . we can whine all we want, we’re screwed.

    I’m just gonna pray that 2012 does bring a change in energetic levels, instead of the core of the earth shooting out into space. And plant a big garden, hehehe!

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