Champs-Elysees: French Farmers Torch Hay In Protest (PHOTOS)

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First Posted: 10-16-09 08:23 AM   |   Updated: 10-17-09 08:30 AM

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PARIS "AP"; French farmers struggling with slumping grain prices blanketed the Champs-Elysees with bales of hay and set them ablaze Friday, and blocked highways around the country as they demanded government help.

About 150 farmers blocked traffic and unloaded hay and tires onto the most famous shopping street in Paris. The protesters set the hay on fire before firefighters quickly extinguished the flames.

Grain farmers were staging nationwide protests to call attention to their debts and other difficulties that have mounted as food prices have fallen from record highs in 2007.

Protesters disrupted traffic on several highways, from Toulouse in southern France to Calais on the English Channel and Moselle in the northeast.

"Mr. Sarkozy, agriculture merits as much as the banking or automobile sectors," the FNSEA union said on its Web site, referring to emergency aid the French government offered banks and carmakers to help them weather the global economic crisis.

Agriculture is still one of the most shielded economic sectors in the 27-nation European Union, but it has not been able to protect farmers from the global financial crisis that caused demand to crash. EU officials insist they still intend to gradually create freer markets for European farm products.

French farmers receive subsidies under the European Union's Common Agricultural Policy, which in 2008 gave out euro50 billion, or $71 billion, mostly to large companies.

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FNSEA chief Jean-Michel Lemetayer appealed to the government for a "major emergency plan" including tax cuts to help French farmers compete with European rivals. Lemetayer also wants euro1 billion ($1.5 billion) in loans for farmers, with the interest and fees paid by the government.

Agriculture Minister Bruno Le Maire appeared ready to meet some of the demands, saying he would urge President Nicolas Sarkozy to reduce the tax burden on farmers this year.

Le Maire predicted overall agricultural revenue would drop by up to 20 percent in 2009 after a 20 percent drop in 2008, though farmers say the decline this year is the worst in decades.

After the Champs-Elysees action, farmers gathered in front of the gold-domed Invalides, home to Napoleon's tomb. Some wore signs with a picture of a drowning person, with the caption: "Sarkozy: Agriculture, should it pay such a price?"

Fabien Pigeon, a wheat farmer from the Paris region, said he is euro230,000 ($341,872) in debt.

"We sell at less than 30 percent the cost of production. The cost to produce a ton of wheat is euro134, but the price of a ton is less than euro100. Two years ago, the production cost was euro110 and the price was euro200," he said.

Gerone Porthault, a 27-year-old who works with his father and brother on their wheat farm near Rambouillet, southwest of Paris, said he was not asking for more subsidies but for globally regulated prices.

The grain farmers' fiery protest comes after dairy farmers dumped rivers of milk across fields in France, Belgium and other countries to protest collapsing milk prices. Dairy farmers had urged the EU to limit production through quotas to drive up prices and shield them from market fluctuations.


PARIS "AP"; French farmers struggling with slumping grain prices blanketed the Champs-Elysees with bales of hay and set them ablaze Friday, and blocked highways around the country as they demanded gov...
PARIS "AP"; French farmers struggling with slumping grain prices blanketed the Champs-Elysees with bales of hay and set them ablaze Friday, and blocked highways around the country as they demanded gov...
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- brady61995 I'm a Fan of brady61995 8 fans permalink

french redneck farmers. le redneck

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 10/16/2009
- Arrech I'm a Fan of Arrech 49 fans permalink
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Les paysans

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 10/16/2009
- brady61995 I'm a Fan of brady61995 8 fans permalink

thanks i was wondering

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 10/16/2009
- countfloyd I'm a Fan of countfloyd 14 fans permalink

So if the farmers get tax cuts then others will have to pay more taxes and will basically be buying their food twice. Correct?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 10/16/2009
- socalcde I'm a Fan of socalcde 2 fans permalink

Wow! Cool. It's sad that the situation had to come to this, but i love their spirit. I wish people in this country had this kind of energy to protest injustice and corruption, but it might cause them to miss an episode of the" Real Housewives of Atlanta".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 10/16/2009
- deluk I'm a Fan of deluk 12 fans permalink
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There's no "injustice and corruption" to protest against. The French do extremely well out of the European Unions' Common Agricultural Policy, but they always feel they're entitled to more.

If the French had modernised decades ago, like the Germans, British, Danish etc they may have found themselves in a more profitable position now.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 10/16/2009
- Dosadi I'm a Fan of Dosadi 97 fans permalink
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How long did you live in France?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 10/16/2009
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modern farming may be more profitable in the short term but it certainly isn't always better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 10/18/2009

I would have liked to been there to see this!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 10/16/2009
- verycold I'm a Fan of verycold 10 fans permalink

The small farmer here in the US over the past several years has gotten themselves deeply in debt. I am a farmer and so let me explain. The tax system allows all sorts of crazy subsidies to all sort of parties both big and small that makes no sense whatsoever. It made sense at one time, but many variables have changed since then. The little farmer with a herd of 30 cows has made some lousy decisions listening to all these ag managers that visit farms to get them to finance more and more. When looking for our current farm, we had a look at the finances of many farms for sale. Every single one of them owed more than their farm was worth. This is even more true today. It is nothing for a small farmer to buy a new 100,000 tractor and trade them in for a newer model in a few years. What I am saying is that I see very few old machinery anywhere except sitting in the fields rotting. This summer many farmers spent 100,000 putting in irrigation systems that ended up going dry in the early summer.

Do a goggle and find out how long a cow lives at the huge operations vs the little farmer. I will tell you. Maybe they live 2 years. Many little farmers have cows 7 years and older.

Food was made cheap and there has been a terrible price for that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 10/16/2009
- Ira7 I'm a Fan of Ira7 8 fans permalink

I'm 52, and I remember the majority of things being home-grown, except for the exotics.

Now we get every sort of fruit and vegetable, meat and foul being imported from elsewhere, and American farmers export elsewhere...and I just don't GET it.

Why the hell do they sell Israeli tomatoes at my supermarket--and this is just an example and has nothing to do with Isreal--when Americans can buy American tomatoes and support American farmers?

I'm no world economist, but putting world peace aside, shouldn't Americans start doing what's good for Americans first?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 10/16/2009
- deluk I'm a Fan of deluk 12 fans permalink
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Cows only live 7 years?

What IS the point of being a cow?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 10/16/2009
- Dosadi I'm a Fan of Dosadi 97 fans permalink
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Beats being a goat?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 10/16/2009
- nexxtep54 I'm a Fan of nexxtep54 21 fans permalink

To be the cow on the railroad tracks?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 10/16/2009

The farmers voted for Sarkozy over the Socialists. Now they want more socialism? They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 10/16/2009
- socalcde I'm a Fan of socalcde 2 fans permalink

Kindergarden logic

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 10/16/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 287 fans permalink
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They're always burning things in France.

Could you imagine our farmers burning things on the capital mall, whining about their farming subsidy?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/16/2009
- nexxtep54 I'm a Fan of nexxtep54 21 fans permalink

A lot of different things get burned in a lot of different places. No one was tazered or shot because of it. Seems their gift to the US made a convenient icon for selling a liberty that diminishes a little more under each progressive term.à

Interesting statistics Flossophy: 20,383 comments over 365 days(m/l) = 55+ comments per day at this site alone.
Is this a full time job for you, commenting for right wing stances? Just askin'.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/16/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 350 fans permalink
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We don't have farmers. We have Archer Daniels Midland and ConAgra.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/16/2009
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and monsanto, who leaves their fields fallow because they don't get to use all the water on Molakai. They're bigger whiners than anyone.
And yeah, Flossophy's full time job is to tro// here.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 10/18/2009
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there needs to be more coverage of social responses to the economic crisis more prominently in the media to show people what is possible, what we can DO to stop the greatest scandal of the last 50 years!
http://news.infoshop.org is a good start.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/16/2009
- DannyRose I'm a Fan of DannyRose 16 fans permalink

Too bad the media is owned by the people who caused this economic crisis.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 10/16/2009

In America, the vast majority of farm subsidies go to the big corporate farmers, giving them an unfair advantage over the smaller family farms. The family farmers can't compete when it comes to price so they go out of business.

If you don't believe me, watch the video on the middle left of this page:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6050559&page=1&page=1

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 10/16/2009
- lily31 I'm a Fan of lily31 23 fans permalink

Why we keep subsidizing the large corporate farmers is beyond me.

Their products are unsafe and their methods of farming is polluting our water. Often they are paid to stop production of certain crops. I guess the answer to the question of "why" is like the answer to a lot of the questions we have ~ the have lobbyists and congress is weak.

Now more than ever we need to support and encourage the small farmers ~ it is in the best interest of our economy and the health of our population.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 10/16/2009

I agree with you entirely!

However it should be noted that when big governments have access to large pools of money (our tax dollars and the Federal Reserve Bank) greedy individuals will undoubtedly bribe our government for special favors.

The only way to stop these special favors is to reduce our government's size and power and abolish the Federal Reserve Bank. That's why if they obeyed the Constitution we wouldn't have corporate farmers putting the smaller and healthier family farmers out of business.

Nowhere in our Constitution does it say that our government must subsidize farmers...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 10/16/2009
- mbondr1 I'm a Fan of mbondr1 4 fans permalink
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I love countries where the people are in charge!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 10/16/2009
- Huero I'm a Fan of Huero 9 fans permalink
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Yes, French labor unions and Eco terrorism what a great bunch!

In mid-August, employees striking at a Serta depot near Rouen (Serta is a trucking company facing bankruptcy; Rouen is an industrial city in northwestern France) threatened to dump 8,000 liters (2,100+ gallons) of fuel additives into a tributary of the Seine River unless laid-off staff were promised 15,000 euros ($21,000) extra compensation per worker on top of the legal minimum payment workers are owed here.

http://www.ecohearth.com/component/content/article/898-the-french-strike-again-toxic-tempers-and-eco-terrorism.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 10/16/2009
- mazaza I'm a Fan of mazaza 34 fans permalink

Threatened but did not.
Threats can be extremely useful when you are a working class guy owning nothing but your dirt cheap labor force.
Read Marx.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 10/17/2009

Here is the real problem: People like us who get on the liberal blogosphere and discuss (however rationally) the merits of French farmers protesting in this manner.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what you or I think about the situation. The world economy is in serious trouble and the farmer, who provide the food that the rest of us take for granted, are hurting. This is unacceptable.

Trust me...we need them a lot more than they need us.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 10/16/2009
- lily31 I'm a Fan of lily31 23 fans permalink

BRAVO!! Ditto.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 10/16/2009
- land2341 I'm a Fan of land2341 7 fans permalink

There are serious problems in the global food supply system that need to be addressed. It is the one asset we cannot live without and it is rapidly being controlled by a shrinking number of companies. There very presence has distorted the global market. And the national markets are pretty much all already distorted by government manipulations.

Curious what the market would look like if we tried a novel approach of supply and demand without monopolies....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 10/16/2009
- KarlaElisa I'm a Fan of KarlaElisa 14 fans permalink
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I don't know man....Farmers are very important people in the grand scope of things. And the push has been on for quiet some time to drive the little guy out of business so industrial agribusiness can move in and plant all those suicide seeds that require loads of pesticides.

Europe has been resisting GMO's and it would appear to me that as long as they don't have big Farmers willing to play ball with Monsanto, Syngenta or BASF that they will continue to apply financial pressure to these guys to drive prices down so they fail. Look at how they gobbled up all our smaller farms in the heartland over the last 20 or so years. It's a coordinated effort and we're proof it works. (See 'Food, Inc').

Besides which, he who controls the food controls the people. Putting the worlds food supply in the hands of but a few companies is the main objective.

There will come a day when we'll regret not supporting these smaller farmers is what I'm thinking.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 10/16/2009
- skymuffin I'm a Fan of skymuffin 19 fans permalink
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I love France! The government is afraid of the people! I love it! People can still protest and they aren't constantly monitored by their own government! They have free speech! We only say we have it but we really don't!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 10/16/2009
- Ira7 I'm a Fan of Ira7 8 fans permalink

If you ever smelled them, you would be afraid of them too.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 10/16/2009

Excuse me????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 10/16/2009
- Bexstarr I'm a Fan of Bexstarr 10 fans permalink

lol

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/16/2009
- mazaza I'm a Fan of mazaza 34 fans permalink

And what is the smell of idiocy?
LOL, of course...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 10/16/2009
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 178 fans permalink
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Have you ever been to France? Every time I hear someone make a snide comment about the French, I ask them this question and every time thus far I have gotten the same answer: "Well no, but..." followed by some horrible experience related to them by a friend who had a friend who blah, blah, blah. Two years ago this past August I went on my first (and only, so far) trip to Europe with my ex, who is now one of my closest friends. We spent three days in Paris traveling on a tight budget, so we stayed in a small hotel in a mostly residential neighborhood near the Eiffel Tower and got around on foot, bus or (mostly) the underground Metro system. Although we haven't been a couple for years, my ex and I are still prone to bickering like a couple - usually about directions - and the only irritating thing I can report about Parisians is that whenever we started to disagree over which train to catch, some extremely polite Parisian speaking better English than our French would stop to interrupt us and offer to help before we could even get into an enjoyable argument. And we didn't encounter a single person with BO anywhere. The wait staff everywhere we ate was polite as well. Some shop girls were snooty, but aren't they all everywhere?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/16/2009
- Happyexpat I'm a Fan of Happyexpat 31 fans permalink
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Flagged.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 10/17/2009
- Huero I'm a Fan of Huero 9 fans permalink
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The have free speech as long as it i politically correct speech. So they really don't have free speech.

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSL1584799120080415

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/16/2009

We have freedom of speech, but we don't have freedom of hate speech. That's a very good thing and I am glad crazies cannot spew their hate publicly like they do here.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 10/16/2009
- Ira7 I'm a Fan of Ira7 8 fans permalink

If things are so bad, how can they afford to burn all of that perfectly good straw?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/16/2009
- Nakona I'm a Fan of Nakona 12 fans permalink

For the exact same reason American farmers had to destroy their crops and slaughter livestock during the Great Depression ( with government subsidy)- there is too much downward pressure on prices and reducing availability brings it back up.

The situation causes a downward spiral as farmers under pressure to pay loans - keep getting asked to pay lower prices by the markets....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 10/16/2009
- Ira7 I'm a Fan of Ira7 8 fans permalink

You're too serious. It was just a joke.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 10/16/2009
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 178 fans permalink
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Your analysis on the economics of supply and demand aside, the farmers who burned hay and tires were protesting a slump in grain prices, not hay (or tires). In this case I believe the farmers primary goal was to cause traffic jams, as their fires blocked highways and the Champs-Elysees, one of the busiest streets in Paris.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 10/16/2009
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