Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year

(AP)
A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration's estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.
A second memorandum, which was prepared for Obama's transition team after the November election, says this about climate change policies: "Economic costs will likely be on the order of 1 percent of GDP, making them equal in scale to all existing environmental regulation."
The documents (PDF) were obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the free-market Competitive Enterprise Institute and released on Tuesday.
These disclosures will probably not aid the political prospects of the Democrats' cap and trade bill. The House of Representatives approved it by a remarkably narrow margin in June -- the bill would have failed if only six House members had switched their votes to "no" -- and it faces significant opposition in the Senate.
One reason the bill faces an uncertain future is concern about its cost. House Republican Leader John Boehner has estimated the additional tax bill would be at $366 billion a year, or $3,100 a year per family. Democrats have pointed to estimates from MIT's John Reilly, who put the cost at $800 a year per family, and noted that tax credits to low income households could offset part of the bite. The Heritage Foundation says that, by 2035, "the typical family of four will see its direct energy costs rise by over $1,500 per year."
One difference is that while Heritage's numbers are talking about 26 years in the future, the Treasury Department's figures don't have a time limit.
"Heritage is saying publicly what the administration is saying to itself privately," says Christopher Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute who filed the FOIA request. "It's nice to see they're not spinning each other behind closed doors."
"They're not telling you the cost -- they're not telling you the benefit," says Horner, who wrote the Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming. "If they don't tell you the cost, and they don't tell you the benefit, what are they telling you? They're just talking about global salvation."
The FOIA'd document written by Judson Jaffe, who joined the Treasury Department's Office of Environment and Energy in January 2009, says: "Given the administration's proposal to auction all emission allowances, a cap-and-trade program could generate federal receipts on the order of $100 to $200 billion annually." (Obviously, any final cap-and-trade system may be different from what Obama had proposed, and could yield higher or lower taxes.)
Because personal income tax revenues bring in around $1.37 trillion a year, a $200 billion additional tax would be the equivalent of a 15 percent increase a year. A $100 billion additional tax would represent a 7 or 8 percent increase a year.
One odd point: The document written by Jaffee includes this line: "It will raise energy prices and impose annual costs on the order of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX." The Treasury Department redacted the rest of the sentence with a thick black line.
The Freedom of Information Act, of course, contains no this-might-embarrass-the-president exemption (nor, for that matter, should federal agencies be in the business of possibly suppressing dissenting climate change voices). You'd hope the presidential administration that boasts of being the "most open and transparent in history" would be more forthcoming than this.
Update 9/16/2009: The Environmental Defense Fund has responded to the documents' release with a statement saying, in part:
Even if a 100 percent auction was a live legislative proposal, which it's not, that math ignores the redistribution of revenue back to consumers. It only looks at one side of the balance sheet. It would only be true if you think the Administration was going to pile all the cash on the White House lawn and set it on fire.
The bill passed by the House sends the value of pollution permits to consumers, and it contains robust cost-containment provisions. Every credible and independent economic analysis of the American Clean Energy and Security Act (such as those done by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the Energy Information Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency) says the costs will be small and affordable -- and that the U.S. economy will grow with a cap on carbon.
Update 9/17/2009: I've written a followup article to respond to erroneous claims from the Center for American Progress.
Declan McCullagh is a correspondent for CBSNews.com. He can be reached at declan@cbsnews.com. You can bookmark the Taking Liberties site here, or subscribe to the RSS feed.
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Sometimes the Information Highway is a road full of Bulloney.
Even if a 100 percent auction was a live legislative proposal, which it's not, that math ignores the redistribution of revenue back to consumers. It only looks at one side of the balance sheet. It would only be true if you think the Administration was going to pile all the cash on the White House lawn and set it on fire.
The bill passed by the House sends the value of pollution permits to consumers, and it contains robust cost-containment provisions. Every credible and independent economic analysis of the American Clean Energy and Security Act (such as those done by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the Energy Information Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency) says the costs will be small and affordable -- and that the U.S. economy will grow with a cap on carbon
THE US ECONOMY CAN'T GROW WITH A CARBON CAP IN PLACE UNLESS ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. SOLOR CANNOT MEET THAT DEMAND. AND GROUPD LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND OPPOSE USING ANY....ANY NUCLEAR.
TAX BIG OIL!
And we all pay more for gas, hurts the poor the most
STOP FARMERS WELFARE!
And we all pay more for food, hurts the poor the most
STOP FARM SUBSIDIES!
and we all pay more for food, hurts the poor the most
STOP WALL STREET BONUSES!
And we all get a smaller return on our savings, hurts the poor the most
MAKE THE RICH PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!
They already do, and if the taxes go up for them, they'll just move
making the tax burden on the poor go up.
Do you have any other solutions? Preferably some that
require some though.
TAX BIG OIL!
STOP FARMERS WELFARE!
STOP FARM SUBSIDIES!
STOP WALL STREET BONUSES!
MAKE THE RICH PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!
Dude - get a grip.
STOP BIG GOVERNMENT
then you won't have to worry about the other ones on your list. I am sure this was just an oversight - happy to help you out.
would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that?s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. ?Since you are all such good customers,? he said, ?I?m going to reduce the cost of your daily beers by $20. Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.?
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But
what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ?fair share??
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody?s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man?s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before and the first four continued
to drink for free, but once outside the restaurant, the men began to
compare their savings.
?I only got a dollar out of the $20,? declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, ?but he got $10!? ?Yeah, that?s right, exclaimed the fifth man. ?I only saved a dollar, too.
It?s unfair that he got TEN times more than I!? ?That?s true!!? shouted
the seventh man. ?Why should he get $10 back when I got only two?
The wealthy get all the breaks!? ?Wait a minute,? yelled the first four men in unison. ?We didn?t get anything at all. The system exploits the
poor!?
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn?t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something very important?.they didn?t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes DO get the most benefit from a tax reduction. They also PAY more than the rest. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
So let interpret that for you. 97% of all income taxes collected by the United States government are paid by the top 50% of income earners. Hmm. So exactly what does "fair share" mean to you?
You said it perfectly! We do not want for our large companies to go over seas because we cannot face the fact that they pay more, so they get larger breaks. We have to stop the entitlement mentality in America. You get what you give!!!!
maybe you need to give your self some more "though"!
Seriously, the dems and the repubs both are awful with all of the expenses...
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Just like every other initiative by this administration, irrational spending for no useful purpose.
For the wealthy, elite, white, upper crust liberals like Joe Biden, Al Gore and the Kennedy's an extra $1800 a year is simply scotch money. Besides it will make Al Gore richer as his CO2 trading company gets all the contracts to trade for CO2 allotments - just like a little eco-Enron.
This is pure BS - Obama hid this from us - like he is hiding the real costs of his proposed health care reform.
We are ALL BEING LIED TO!!! He will bankrupt our nation and tell us it's for our own good.
They just intend to fund MORE GREEN jobs krap that doesn't exist with it."
Gee, Rowdy, didn't you say you were leaving?
Obama has been on the cap and trade band wagon since its inception. Do you guys ever read or listen to anything other than the drive by state run media?
God help us!
Elections have consequences.
Obama: " I am not really spending all of the money....This is all for your own good....You aren't smart enough to have input on our country's wellbeing...Let the smart people handle this...Go about your merry ways...Don't worry about anything but the H1N1 flu...make sure you wash your hands....while we wipe your bottoms."
I don't know but I get nervous when too many things are in the frying pan at the same time.
You don't MIND being deliberately played for a fool?
Your only worried Obama has too much on his plate???
Next time you walk down the street why don't you just throw your money at people - your to witless to know your being robbed.
And of course I mind. I believe I already posted that Obama should delay this whole thing. So what's your freakin' point anyway. You think I'm going to blindly defend Obama on this?
You mis-judge me. That makes you wit-less.
your to witless"
It's "you're too witless".
Seriously, though, it does crack me up to see you call someone else "witless" when you can't even get your English correct. This is your native tongue, isn't it?
Awwwwwwwwwww.....you guys are soooooooo dramatic! You are all very good students of Glen Beck and should all recieve an award!
Link: http://www.azchamber.com/news/view_article.cfm?ID=380
You think because it isn't fact now that cap and trade is irrelevent.
I say if I catch you lying to me I will never trust you again.
Now how much else is he hiding? How many hidden costs in his other proposals don't we know about yet?
He hid this information to mislead you about cap and trade.
What is he hiding about health care? What about wall street bailouts? How about the stimulus?
Did you know most of the stimulus money has yet to be spent? If we are out of the recession why isn't it being pulled back in?
If 200 Billion if an 1800 a year tax, then 800 billion is a 7200 tax increase. Why are we spending it if there is no recession anymore???
We are being played for fools and your happy to go along with it.
The only green this bill is about is the billions of greenbacks it will bring to the Fed. No increase in taxes my .....
That is what the argument about health care as been about - we don't know anything about this and we are rushing to push it into law.
I now know he has deliberatly lied to me. In the morning I am calling my Senators and congressman and demanding they vote no on any new spending until we understand how it will be paid for and who will benefit.
Fool me once shame on you - you won't get a second chance.
We should be more cautious and transparent with 16% of the GDP.
ummm...because they will lose control of the Legislative Branch in 2010.
My point is that this adminstration is making Bush look like a cheap skate with the way it's spending and we have NO IDEA how much of what we are told it is for is true.
If he hid facts about cap and trade what other facts is he not telling us? I have a feeling that he doesn't think much of the American people and feels entitled to lie to them to achieve his goals.
The MSM (main stream media) has been protecting him and it will do so again but burying this story.
NYT will not even mention it. WSJ will be it will be dismissed as another right wing crank whinning.
Best of all, scientists will tell you that human caused CO2 emissions, which includes ALL human activity and ALL domestic animals, produces only 4% of global CO2 emissions. The rest (96%) comes from the GROUND. look it up, it's no exaggeration.
It's all about money, government power, and people wanting to dictate to others how they should live.
When we controlled so much of the world's industry, we also had significant control over the emissions that were being pumped into this planet's atmosphere, oceans, and land masses.
Even if we had to fight the Republicans tooth and nail to, at least, prolong humankinds residence upon this planet.
But now, with inequitable free trade and the insistance of the "emerging economies" that they should get a shot at killing us all, too...well, we just here for the ride, now.
Here's hoping this train that we call "modern life" has an infinite and unbreakable track, 'cuz we've got madmen at the controls...
Now lets couple that with facts - the globe has not warmed in over 10 years. Polar ice caps have increased for the last 2 years. We have had no hurricanes this year.
All the dire predictions don't seem to be coming true. Why is the US the only nation to impose a tax on our manufacturing industries ensuring more layoffs and more jobs overseas to gain such meager benefits?
Guess that olde hope and change is really working out. Hope we have some change left after the govt. takes all our money for doing so much good. 13% of our income for health care, 50% for housing, more for taxes, what is that about 55% in New York now and just think we still have to work until we get to be 65 or later. Love what the liberal left wing loons want to do.
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