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Sports more Baseball Basketball Extreme Sports Football Hockey Motorsport Olympics Pro-Fighting Soccer Other Tech more Gadgets General Computers & Electronics Internet Software Other Ask a Question Question :: Music : Urban/R&B asked by Patti Question Stats Posted 15 hours ago 7 answers 17 comments +4 raves Who Answered >> See all Share This Question With SodaHeads By Email As a Widget Broadcast Question Another fact for 911? Or can anyone debunk this? “Chief Engineer” Hyman Brown by Patrick Marks 5/26/09 Colorado 9-11 Visibility While introducing an interview that appeared on NBC-TV on September 11, 2001, Tom Brokaw referred to Hyman Brown... “Chief Engineer” Hyman Brown by Patrick Marks 5/26/09 Colorado 9-11 Visibility While introducing an interview that appeared on NBC-TV on September 11, 2001, Tom Brokaw referred to Hyman Brown as the “architect” of the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers.[i] Hyman Brown was not the architect of the Twin Towers. In an article that appeared on September 10, 2007, The Jerusalem Post referred to Hyman Brown as the “Twin Towers chief engineer.”[ii] Hyman Brown was not the Twin Towers chief engineer. Hyman Brown, in various books, articles, lectures, and television interviews has been referred to as the “architect . . . chief engineer . . . project engineer [iii]. . . construction manager[iv] . . . fifth in command ”[v] of the Twin Towers. None of it is true. What’s more, Hyman Brown admits that none of it is true, although he has made no effort to set the record straight. The Twin Towers were designed by architect Minoru Yamasaki in the early 1960s . . . when Hyman Brown was an undergraduate at City College of New York.[vi] Construction on the Twin Towers took place in the late 1960’s . . . when Hyman Brown was attending California State University at Los Angeles. The Twin Towers were completed in 1971 . . . when Hyman Brown was employed at Tishman Realty and Construction in Los Angeles. According to his own resume,[vii] Hyman Brown began working at the World Trade Center in 1972, a full year after the Twin Towers were dedicated.[viii] Did he hold a position of authority after 1972? Maybe. But he held no important position before then, although everywhere he goes, from Boulder to Jerusalem, he strives to leave the impression that he did. In a history of the World Trade Center entitled City in the Sky, architect Minoru Yamasaki is referred to six times, chief engineer John Skilling thirteen times, structural engineer Leslie Robertson eight times, and construction manager Ray Monti six times, but Hyman Brown is not mentioned.[ix] In a personal email to me, Leslie Roberston said that he never heard of Hyman Brown.[x] How could that be? How could the structural engineer not know the identity of the “architect”, the “chief engineer”, the “production manager”? Is that credible? In an interview with me, conducted in June of 2008, Hyman Brown admitted that he held none of the titles attributed to him. “It was my first job out of college, I was 25 years old, and I was the guy who sharpened the pencils. . . . It was my job to open the trailer and make coffee in the morning.” But even those modest claims are probably not true. When I asked him how he could simultaneously be in graduate school in Los Angeles and an engineer in New York, Brown told me that he “commuted” between New York and Los Angeles from 1967 through 1970, but is that credible? The typical salary for a novice engineer in 1966 was approximately $9,000, or $173 a week. The cost of a one-way ticket from Los Angeles to New York during that period was $217.65,[xi] which means that a round trip ticket was probably around $400. To believe that Hyman Brown commuted between New York and Los Angeles on the company’s dime, you have to believe that Tishman Realty, which had a fixed contract of $3.5 million, paid weekly travel fees in excess of salary for a novice engineer, who, by his own admission, did little more than make coffee. Is that credible? It is even less credible that Brown footed the bill himself, since the 1967 cost of a round trip flight was more than double his salary. And even if he did commute, how could he possibly work full time in New York and attend school full time in Los Angeles? No matter how you slice it, the story doesn’t add up. Why is this information important? 1. Hyman Brown is often cited as an “expert” on the construction of the World Trade Center. In the Tom Brokaw piece, for example, “architect” Hyman Brown “explained” why the Twin Towers collapsed. In a public talk in Boulder, Colorado, “5th in command” Hyman Brown “explained” how the steel beams melted.[xii] Hyman Brown is cited as an authority in documentaries made by the History Channel and the BBC, and even 9-11 Truth champion David Ray Griffin has quoted “construction manager” Hyman Brown.[xiii] Brown’s remarks are considered valuable because he was there. Problem is, he wasn’t there, in all probability, and even if he was, all he did was make coffee. 2. Brown’s “expert analysis” always supports the official Bush administration myth. Always. Brown “explains” why the steel melted and the buildings collapsed, even though his “explanation” has no basis in engineering, architecture, the forensic evidence, the temperature of jet fuel, the melting point of steel, or the laws of physics, and he uses his “authority” as “architect”, “chief engineer”, “production manager”, and “5th in command” to gain instant credibility. And when people believe him, they believe the Official Myth. I know people with PhD’s in the sciences who parrot Bush Administration propaganda because they heard Hyman Brown “explain” it to them. But if Hyman Brown was not “architect”, “chief engineer”, or “production manager”, if Hyman Brown was an undergraduate when the Twin Towers were planned, if Hyman Brown was in California when the Twin Towers were built, if Hyman Brown is a complete stranger to the men who actually built the Twin Towers, what does that say about his credibility? 3. The Myth of 9-11, for which “chief engineer” Hyman Brown is one of the most vocal spokesmen, has been used to justify unprovoked attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan, the murder of between 100,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens, the building of concentration camps, domestic spying, suspension of habeas corpus, torture, the payment of billions of dollars to shady defense contractors, a national debt that is counted in the trillions, and hundreds of other domestic and foreign policy disasters. Indeed, The Myth of 9-11 is so entrenched that Barack Obama himself pledged to go after the terrorists in Afghanistan. It might seem like an innocent prank to fake your credentials and get on TV, but Hyman Brown’s testimony is far from innocent. He did not create the 9-11 Myth, of course, but he lied in order to perpetuate it, and he lied early, when the myth was still being formed. It would have developed without him, I’m sure, but in his small way, he has been a cog in the Death Machine.xi The question is, why was NBC News interviewing Hyman Brown in the first place, on the very day of the 9-11 disaster, when he . . . wasn’t the architect (although Tom Brokaw claimed he was)? . . . wasn’t the project engineer (although NBC correspondent Roger O’Neal claimed he was)? . . . wasn’t even living in New York when the Twin Towers were built? Why did NBC call him? Or did he call them? But if they called him, why? Where did they get his name? He isn’t mentioned in any book I have read about the construction of the Twin Towers. His own resume places him in California during the years when the Twin Towers were built. Why call him when people who played key roles in the project were available? Was his name on a list? And if so, where did that list come from? Who compiled it? Was the Bush administration involved? Why call him when five minutes of fact-checking would have revealed that he was neither “architect” nor “construction manager”? Why did NBC fail to do that fact-checking? And if he called them, why? Was it ego? Was it delusions of grandeur? Was he seeking his 15 minutes of fame? Or was he on the payroll of the Bush administration? Was it Hyman Brown’s job to spread disinformation? And why did NBC bite? Were they merely incompetent or were they actively seeking an “expert” to lend credence to the Official Myth? I don’t know the answers to those questions. All I know is, something fishy is going on. (less) Answers Results Read all 17 comments It is the truth. There is something wrong with 911 explanations. Ill debunk it. Undecided (Please leave a comment) All of the above None of the above (Please leave a comment) Add Image Add Video Join the discussion! Leave a comment. Loading... Top Comment Reply +3 raves by Howard Beale II posted 10 hours ago Answered All of the above When something smells fishy, my first impulse is to always follow the money. View thread text size Sort By Most Raves Least Raves Oldest Newest Comments Reply raves [-] by Gramma Lil posted 42 minutes ago Answered It is the truth. There is something wrong with 911 explanations. I never believed the whole explanation of what happened on 9/11.....you are right. Some is very fishy about it. Reply raves [-] by KILLBOT posted 9 hours ago Answered All of the above I dare anyone to read this blog and come away with at least some doubt as to the "official" story... http://911-engineers.blogspot... Reply raves [-] Patti replied to KILLBOT posted 7 hours ago stj911.org I dare anyone to have an open mind and realize government is far from a friend Reply raves [-] by journeyman posted 10 hours ago Answered Undecided I really want to believe this is just sloppy reporting. Reply +3 raves [-] by Howard Beale II posted 10 hours ago Answered All of the above When something smells fishy, my first impulse is to always follow the money. Reply raves [-] by Frank posted 11 hours ago Answered None of the above Sorry, I don't buy into the conspiracy. I believe that extradordinary claims require extraordaniry proof. I need more than innuendo and some unrelated facts strung together. Reply raves [-] Patti replied to Frank posted 11 hours ago stj911.org Reply +2 raves [-] by marvthemartian posted 15 hours ago (edited) Answered It is the truth. There is something wrong with 911 explanations. Everything is wrong with the governments story of this event. Anyone with half a brain can plainly see it was a hoax played on the American people by the untrustworthy government.This event should prove without a doubt that the elite who control the government can do what ever they want whenever they want without concern for human life or destruction of property. When we find the truth the list of people who profited and helped pull it off will be unbeleivable, hundreds of poeple had to be paid a lot of money to keep their mouth shut about their part in this murderous event. A very sad and unbeleivable day in America that proves how little freedom we actually have. Reply +2 raves [-] Patti replied to marvthe... posted 15 hours ago marv the martian. i love u. such wise words. and your so right. how can they be so blind. no one had to tell me something was wrong, i saw it. I dont consider myself a genius but it doesnt take one to see what was wrong with that day. thanks marv Reply +2 raves [-] marvthe... replied to Patti posted 14 hours ago You are very welcome, however I'm only trying to spread the word that many are afraid of. Let's say you were stranded on a deserted island in the late 50s and was found and brought back home to America, would you be able to survive the shock of finding out just how much worse things are? Reply +2 raves [-] Patti replied to marvthe... posted 14 hours ago I know. It is frustrating thou. Some are just so stuck on that party thing. It is pretty obvious they stick together and fool the majority. Reply +1 raves [-] Patti replied to marvthe... posted 11 hours ago i could survive, but it could be rough. keep spreading as i am. Reply +2 raves [-] by funtime posted 15 hours ago Answered Undecided You would think in the 21st century that someone could either find out if this is true or false. Perhaps like the shooting of President Kennedy there will always be those that believe more than one person was responsible. Reply +1 raves [-] marvthe... replied to funtime posted 15 hours ago The people killed JFK are the same ones that are responsible for 9/11. Reply +1 raves [-] Patti replied to marvthe... posted 15 hours ago isnt it funny how bush's daddy was head of the cia and cant remember where he was when jfk was shot. But I was four and I can remember. Seems the bush's are all liars. You know who his relatives supported? Reply +2 raves [-] marvthe... replied to Patti posted 14 hours ago (edited) The Bush family are a bunch of treasonous crooks, I think. Reply raves [-] Patti replied to marvthe... posted 11 hours ago (edited) right on-tired to rave u but i dont know if it took. Related Questions Did you know the History Channel lies? 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