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49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent the following letter asking the agency to move away from climate models and to limit its stance to what can be empirically proven.
The letter criticizes the Goddard Institute For Space Studies especially, where director Jim Hansen and climatologist Gavin Schmidt have been outspoken advocates for action.
The press release with attached letter is below.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Blanquita Cullum 703-307-9510 bqview at mac.com
Joint letter to NASA Administrator blasts agency’s policy of ignoring empirical evidence
HOUSTON, TX – April 10, 2012.
49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week admonishing the agency for it’s role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting empirical evidence that calls the theory into question.
The group, which includes seven Apollo astronauts and two former directors of NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston, are dismayed over the failure of NASA, and specifically the Goddard Institute For Space Studies (GISS), to make an objective assessment of all available scientific data on climate change. They charge that NASA is relying too heavily on complex climate models that have proven scientifically inadequate in predicting climate only one or two decades in advance.
H. Leighton Steward, chairman of the non-profit Plants Need CO2, noted that many of the former NASA scientists harbored doubts about the significance of the C02-climate change theory and have concerns over NASA’s advocacy on the issue. While making presentations in late 2011 to many of the signatories of the letter, Steward realized that the NASA scientists should make their concerns known to NASA and the GISS.
“These American heroes – the astronauts that took to space and the scientists and engineers that put them there – are simply stating their concern over NASA’s extreme advocacy for an unproven theory,” said Leighton Steward. “There’s a concern that if it turns out that CO2 is not a major cause of climate change, NASA will have put the reputation of NASA, NASA’s current and former employees, and even the very reputation of science itself at risk of public ridicule and distrust.”
Select excerpts from the letter:
- “The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.”
- “We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated.”
- “We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject.”
The full text of the letter:
March 28, 2012
The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
NASA Administrator
NASA
Headquarters
Washington, D.C. 20546-0001
Dear Charlie,
We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.
The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.
As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.
For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.
Thank you for considering this request.
Sincerely,
(Attached signatures)
CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science
CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center
Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.
/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
/s/ Anita Gale
/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years
/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years
/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years
/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years
/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years
/s/ Thomas J. Harmon
/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years
/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years
/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years
/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years
/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years
/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years
/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years
/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years
/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen
/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years
/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years
/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years
/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years
/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years
/s/ Tom Ohesorge
/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years
/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years
/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years
/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years
/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years
/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years
/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years
/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years
/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years
/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
/s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years
/s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years
/s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years
















































We need good gov't leaders with absolutely no scientific degrees or other experience in this area to be the leaders when it comes to climate issues! Only then can we know the truth about how CO2 and other gases, etc affect the climate. I despise when the gov't hires qualified people for roles like this! THIS is a prime example of why we should continue to elect and hire unqualified people to lead us - only then can we know we have a future.
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Folks, what's the best way to save your children's lives? That's correct: Vote for Obama.
You see, Obama gives us, and companies like us, a whole lot of money. You don't understand, I'm talking about A LOT OF $$$MONEY$$$. For a time our offices were flooded with cash. Trips to Vegas every weekend, steak dinners, new houses and boats for us executives. Guess what? That's all gone now because of some Fox News investigation or something. BULLSH*T. Give us that money back. We're doing God's work.
Or... maybe you don't want us to save your children's lives? You decide...
Bogus article.
sorry, but everyone knows that AGW is bullshit and just another statist attempt to grab at my wallet... i'm gonna go jump into my SUV and throw some litter on the highway now, just to tick you off
Oh, you mean the people at NASA who actually have to do/produce working things. Those are the sorts we shouldn't be listening to?
What have the climate scientists at NASA produced besides models that can't predict present conditions using historical data? And a lot of self promotion?
(Full disclosure: I worked at NASA as an engineer, so I've seen some of the excuses for "scientists" there.)
http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/12/our-changing-arctic-is-change-permanent.html
While these changes may be due to normal environmental fluctuations, they may also be a result of a long-term change in global climate. Unfortunately, while politicians posture over their uninformed positions on the subject, the north may well be experiencing irreversible changes.
Do note that during these changes there wasn't one internal combustion engine around, spewing its oh so dangerous carbon toxins in the air
Maybe we should have a little bit more perspective before we go and reorder society like you environuts want to?
http://www.real-science.com/more-ice-in-2012-than-1974
Also who do they now work for? If any of them now get a paycheck from say an oil company then the question needs to be raised are they speaking for their paycheck?
Also who published this letter and who has checked to make sure that each name listed actually agrees to this?
Government shill useful idiots urging their uneducated students to join OWS without knowing why.
Just ask any one of these students at OWS why they are there or what they are protesting, it would be hilarious if it weren’t real.
The Rothschilds, CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission and The Club of Rome and the Rockefellers love these idiots, AGW is designed to empower the NWO elites, regulate and drain the wealth of world’s citizens. Anyone enabling this atrocity should be ashamed.
I guess the "estimeemed brethern" noticed that funding among things have not exactly headed skyward in recent years. That and Russia now being the planet's space launch experts with China mightily playing catch-up in all things space and well, NASA looks rather like the dunce boys instead of the brightest lights of science.
Oh, and AlBore - up yours!
What kind of way is that to report on something so important?
As always, follow the money
A simple mischaracterization of the enemy's arguments is such a small sin when compared to the Greater Good... which only our esteemed elites can truly grasp. The Greater Good can only be served by relativism and pseudoscience. There is no room for the proven or the eternal... those are best seen as the redoubts of the resistance to Progress. They only get in the way of What Must Be Done.
Everybody knows that the basis for good policy is myths and illusions, right? Right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
"Global warming" is the proper term for the lever of worldwide political and monetary control.
It is predicated on a 3-fold feedback loop which "science" has been unable to verify empirically. In short, the model is wrong.
Rather than admit that the model is wrong, and unable to predict the past let alone the future, the AGW crowd is doubling down on a bad bet.
You, sir or madam, are stuck on stupid; folks out here in meatspace (i.e. the real world) laugh at you...
Yesterday again where I live the planes sprayed all day long and turned a blue sky into a gray dirty haze as the planes flew their various patterns in the sky, ie tic tac toe, X s , horizontal lines , straight lines etc, all the while spraying and turning the sky overcast with a dirty gray haze.
To the doubters who say it is just contrails , contrails are product of combustion and create h2o and co2 and the commericial airlines that fly over have no sign of even contrails from the jet engines, the chemtrails are from the sprayers in the wings of the spray planes and leave a dirty gray mark across the sky that lingers for hours and hours in the sky.
Also I have watched these planes with field glasses and have seen them turn the sprayers on and off as they go about polluting the sky. For any doubters google CHEMTRAILS and go to youtube and enter CHEMTRAILS in the search and watch the videos.
Call you members of congress , this spraying of chemicals that we are forced to breath must be stopped.
Here in the area where I live it used to be they would spray for a week or so and then not come back for several weeks, now it is damn near every day and sometimes they spray all night and through the day. As I said for any doubters google chemtrails and go to you tube and enter chemtrails in the search and watch the videos.
Aluminum oxide and barium have been found in the samples of the spraying and these are toxic to the human body.
Think I'm kidding...look up!
In politics it is a matter of whether any issue can be spun adequately to whip the mob into hysteria. This attracts funding and other forms of "attention". "The Apocalypse" is a perennial best seller for Mob Demagogics.
In an earlier era it would have been Satan aided by witches stealing your Soul or thunder as a form of divine rage.
Since this is a slightly more secular era various scientific apocalypses are "foreseen" by our prophets.
In any case this Global Warming Package has traction for political purposes at the moment.
A REALLY virulent STD would push it to the margins of popular thought and once this GW scheme has had all the money raising potential whipped out of it shysters will discover new issues. This is under intense R&D continually looking for that portfolio of hot button issues that will vault the one demagogue to Olympus DC over the many pretenders.
It warms my heart to see so many proud Americans displaying their heretofore hidden scientific knowledge and expertise in such a logical and well informed manner.
Get some talking points out there and let the masses run with it. Perfect.
BTW, since when is an aerospace engineer or an astronaut any more informed than a physician or an economist about climate science?
If we ran a poll on the party affiliation of the 45 NASA "experts" who signed the letter, what do you think the results would show? Any guesses?
97% of scientists who specialize in climate science agree that the warming phenomenon is real and that the primary driver is human related activity. The hard scientific data is overwhelming.
It isn't easy for an ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC DISCIPLINE to be hijacked by people with a political agenda.
Get real people.
Oh, and BTW, once you've stopped whining about all those "eco-radical" climate scientists who have simply made up the whole global warming scam, maybe you could also stop whining about all those "godless" biologists, chemists, and physicists who have built up a truly unassailable mountain of evidence that evolution by natural selection is real and accounts for the diversity of life on the planet.
I'm really tired of dumber than shit conservatives endlessly parroting the BS fed to them by their thought managers.